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19th June 2011, 09:44 PM #1Intermediate Member
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hows this sound for a welding/work bench?
ok im just getting into wleding and the like so can u tell me if thi swill work.
3mm steel plate top 2400x900 and fo rthe legs i will use gal 25mm box as it seems to be cheaper then painted steel of the same size.
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19th June 2011, 10:17 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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3mm may/will be to lite for any heavy fabrication work,exspecially if you tack to it,it will if too much heat or if tacks are to big distort.
For a plate the size you mention you would I think need to put braces at least every 300mm to atleast give it a bit of ridgidity.
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19th June 2011, 10:22 PM #3Intermediate Member
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i dont think i would ever tack to it. yea i was planning aheap of braces would 5mm do?
the bench top is 85kg then.
would 3mm be fine if i don't weld to it?
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19th June 2011, 10:53 PM #4.
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2.4 x 0.9 x 0.003 x 7800 = ~50 kg
FWIW, I'm making one about 1/3rd that size (900 x 800) and I don't plan to tack to it either and I'm planning a 6 mm ally top. The frame is going to be made of 76 x 38 x 1.6 RHS mainly because I have a heap of this. The ally top won't rust and weld spatter won't stick to it so when I want to lay something out on it, it will be flat We have a steel top 1.8 x 1.2 m table at work and that is impossible to work on without getting out the grinder and removing the spatter.
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19th June 2011, 10:59 PM #5Intermediate Member
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80 kg would be for 5mm
how much is alloy?
as a 6mm top the same size would only be 35kg
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19th June 2011, 11:04 PM #6.
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19th June 2011, 11:12 PM #7
I would make the frame from 50x50x3 mm RHS with good bracing all round. The top is a little thin. I would go for at least 5mm but my own preference would be 6mm. I wouldn't use ally (aluminium?) as it is far to soft and you cant bang or bash a hammer on it without damaging it. If the bench is going to be used over a long period of time, I would build one that I would be proud of. You don't want to have to build two benches to get one really good one. By having a really good bench, you will find many other uses for it after it is built.
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19th June 2011, 11:19 PM #8Intermediate Member
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i wanta longer bench so when i ca weld i can knock up some rock sliders.
yea i was thinking a thicker walled RHS.
how deep would u make it is 900 to deep or would 600 be the go.
what about adding a electronic rust shield to prevent surface rust. we have them now on the sheds to stop rust.
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20th June 2011, 12:08 AM #9Dave J Guest
I would go 6mm at least. 3mm will even buckle from the sun if it's welded to the frame.
Dave
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20th June 2011, 10:40 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Why build something of a compromise when you can buy a good one ready made. Here is one on Ausie eBay at the moment, and if you want a better selection, have a look at US eBay, just type in welding table into the search box. No need for the electronic rust guard, it'll never rust out in our lifetime..
Seriously though, I would build it in steel, or look to the auction pages, as lots come up as factories close. I made mine years ago, 1,1/2 X 1/4 angle iron frame, sides and back in 1/8th plate and 6'x4' x1/2" top. I painted the sides and back with red oxide primer and never got around to putting a finish coat on, but no rust in over 20 years, and o.k. the top doesn't shine, but I could weld without having to grind it back to get a good earth. If it did rust over, all it would take to fix it would be a quick run over with a belt sander or flapper disc, and a wipe over with an oily rag every now and then keeps it looking good.
If I need to, I can tack to it, but if I am having trouble striking an arc with some cranky electrodes, I don't use the bench to get it going, but a small but weighty piece of scrap, I can place nearby if the need arises. That top is strong, - I could use a sledge hammer on it and nothing would bend, but the eBay ones are better! Cheers,
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20th June 2011, 10:41 AM #11
All my benches either for welding, woodwork or general use are 900mm wide. Any narrower and there is not enough space/area for setting up with jigs, clamps etc. If you made the bench 600mm wide you will be very disappointed.
A long or bulky job is very hard to support on a narrow bench.
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20th June 2011, 01:11 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Gros21, you've opened up a can of worms with the electronic rust protection, so I'm not even going to go there ! Regarding the bench:
- make sure you pay attention to getting your work bench flat (i.e. not warped) - won't regret the time taken with this. so people build in adjustable dog and wedge/scrwe systems so they can adjust for flatness periodically.
- 3mm is really thin for a work bench top, go thicker and you won't regret it that either.
- same with the 25mm tube, too flimsy - go for 40x40 at least
- I have a 6mm mild steel work top and it's a pain because of surface rust. After a while it's hard to get a good earth through it and you get arc strikes on your work unless you put the earth clamp directly on the piece. I sand it down occassionally, but I'm probably going to put a stainless skin (say 2mm) over mine for most work.
- Make sure you leave an overhang edge on the top to make clamping easy.
- Mick
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