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    Default Ideas for making one of these:

    Hi Guys,
    I want to make one of these and I'm just bouncing ideas around how best to go about it.

    Leg-Sim cropped.jpg

    Will use bicycle parts for the seat and seat stem and handle bars and stem, which I think are normally 22mm.
    I have some parts from prosthetics for the 'foot' that has an adjustable 'ankle', that uses 30 mm tube, so I can machine 30 mm rod down to 22mm to interface that to the frame.
    That keeps it all three adjustments the same size.( 22 mm ID)
    I can get double clamps off ebay to secure all three adjustments. No problem.

    So I need 25mm tube with an ID of 22mm ( ie 1.6 mm wall thickness is the closest I can find )

    We have a conduit bender at work I can use to make the ~50 mm offset in the main section ( might be hard to see in the pic ) and the ~20° bend in the 'control arm'
    I can do the cope on my mill.

    The choices for material is mild steel tube or aluminum tube, I guess....
    Welding together will be the problem. I need to find a specialised welding business to weld either material , I think.
    Unless I can get the steel version brazed together.

    Don't know if I know anyone that could weld 1.6 mm aluminum.....

    Steel tube will be a bit heavier, but I should be able to braze it together if I can't get it welded....
    Aluminum will be lighter...will 1.6 mm wall thickness Aluminum be stronger enough? ( I'm 105 kg ) and can I find someone to weld it? There is a Fire Tender Building business in town, who work with Ali, but pretty sure they don't use 1.6mm material...lol

    The total height will about 880 mm.
    Oh, yeah, I need it in 5 weeks...lol

    Let the brain storming begin.....

    Regards
    Steve

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    What is it?

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    Al might work but I think steel would be safer.

    Michael

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    +1 for steel. Whats it going to weigh?(3kgs?) how much weight would Alum save you?(very little I'm guessing)

    I dont see why you need three adjustments.
    I also dont really see a need for either tube to be bent(though it might make adjustment a little more tricky)

    Stuart

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    Is it a pogo stick? or a bar stool?
    Cheers,
    Joe
    9"thicknesser/planer, 12" bench saw, 2Hp Dusty, 5/8" Drill press, 10" Makita drop saw, 2Hp Makita outer, the usual power tools and carpentry hand tools...

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    Default ???

    What do you do with it?

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    Wow! What a great design!
    Isn't there an issue with patent infringement if you make one yourself? Or only of you make it to sell?
    Cheers,
    Joe
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    Hi Joe, Pretty sure you can make anything you like for yourself without infringing patents. Just don't make them to sell.
    tinkera

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    +1 for steel. Whats it going to weigh?(3kgs?) how much weight would Alum save you?(very little I'm guessing)

    I dont see why you need three adjustments.
    I also dont really see a need for either tube to be bent(though it might make adjustment a little more tricky)

    Stuart

    Yes,I guess it won't be alot lighter using aluminum.
    I guess three adjustments just give a bit more flexibility to cover all size people...dunno.
    The rear tube needs the offset to place the c of G in the correct place and the front one is cosmetic, I assume.

    I tried to buy one. I even offered to fly over to the US to get fitted out. First email was a 'no' the second got no response.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    The rear tube needs the offset to place the c of G in the correct place and the front one is cosmetic, I assume.
    You could build that angle into the turned down section of the foot. Then you have two straight peices of pipe. Though a vertical adjustment will move things horizontal a little as well. I doubt that would be a huge issue.

    A couple of old road bike frames might be a good place to start. Depending how tall you are of course, the seat tube might just be long enough for what you need(the seat tube normally isnt "oversized" like the down and top tubes.

    Stuart

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    Default Aluminum/steel

    IMHO, aly would be better: not a great weight saving, but, try carrying around a steel walking stick for a while then swap to an ally one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th62 View Post
    IMHO, aly would be better: not a great weight saving, but, try carrying around a steel walking stick for a while then swap to an ally one.
    But the tube in a walking stick would be 90%+ of the weight. With this I'm guessing the tube weight will be more like 20% of the weight. Depends how comffy a seat he picks
    Also I thinking I'd rather have a brazed joint on steel than a welded joint on alu.

    Stuart

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    Double WOW I never would have guessed. What a brilliant device.

    Graeme

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