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    Default Indian 3 phase motor and VFD

    Looking at the little 3 phase motor on the T&G grinder . I presume the star symbol on the tag means it is wound in star mode .

    Is there anyway of modifying it for a VFD ? Or, is it easier to install another motor ?

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    Hi Mike,

    Have you looked at the connector box on the motor? How many terminals? Picture?
    You could always leave it in star and make do with 0.33hp.
    Assuming it doesnt have the star point bought out, you'll have to dig it out(or have it dug out for you)

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    I might be in luck.........not sure

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    It doesnt appear so.
    So you can either run it as is and have about 0.33hp or go looking(or have someone else go looking) for the star point, change the wiring and then run it with 0.5hp.

    Changing the motor(if you mean to single phase) isnt a good idea on a grinder..... so I've read. They tend to vibrate more.

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    Mike, you really go for the top shelf products

    Yes that's currently wired in star, normally it's extremely easy to dig out the star point and run the wires back out for delta. If you can use a soldering iron, can get some high temp spagetti, and don't mind disassembling it you shouldn't have any problems at all. It typically takes me around 30 minutes to do one.

    If you're scared of the smoke genie, then it will cost you 50-60 bucks to have it done at any motor rewinding company.

    But what would I know.

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    I'm guessing that you will have access to all the windings from under the terminal connector ... no need to go digging around for the star point.

    Remove the terminal connector and see what's there.
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernonv View Post
    I'm guessing that you will have access to all the windings from under the terminal connector ... no need to go digging around for the star point.

    Remove the terminal connector and see what's there.
    Yes I will ge the multimeter and have a srounge around in there ...

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    OK, I've got it pulled apart .

    Have colour coded the 3 coils ..blue , purple and green .

    Now for some soldering and heat shrink , then back together

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    heatsink? I thought that was a bad thing inside a motor? Though I could well be wrong.

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    Hi Mike,

    Stuart is right, the normal thing is to use high temperature sleeving, I think it's available from Jaycar.

    That said, I know a lot of motors have pvc insulated wiring...

    Were the three extra wires just under the terminal strip, or tied off somewhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    Hi Mike,

    I think it's available from Jaycar.
    But only in a very limited range of sizes.....limited to two....
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    Hi Mike,

    Stuart is right, the normal thing is to use high temperature sleeving, I think it's available from Jaycar.

    That said, I know a lot of motors have pvc insulated wiring...

    Were the three extra wires just under the terminal strip, or tied off somewhere else?

    Regards
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    Hi Ray

    The three centre joined STAR wires were well hidden . I had to pick them out , it took a while to find them . I couldn't see them until I cut a few of the binding strings and unravelled things .

    I didn't know about HT sleeving ..only heat shrink . learn something every day

    What do you recommend for sticking it all back together , holding the wires in place . Its been heavily varnished with some type of glue .

    MIKE

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    Mike, the sleeving was what I called spaghetti above. It's old-skool, but the right stuff for the job. You can get some varnish from Jaycar too. The wires normally sit back pretty well, solid core is stiff and holds a shape. Sit them in there, give it a bit of a squirt with varnish, and Bobs your uncle. I told you it was easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    Mike, the sleeving was what I called spaghetti above. It's old-skool, but the right stuff for the job. You can get some varnish from Jaycar too. The wires normally sit back pretty well, solid core is stiff and holds a shape. Sit them in there, give it a bit of a squirt with varnish, and Bobs your uncle. I told you it was easy

    Pete
    ...or if you are nervous about them moving, you could also use some epoxy glue to insist on where they should stay put at the temperatures they are likely to endure.
    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    ...or if you are nervous about them moving, you could also use some epoxy glue to insist on where they should stay put at the temperatures they are likely to endure.
    Joe
    I thought cotton thread was the done thing?(doesnt stretch when it gets warm or some such?)

    Stuart

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