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Thread: Who invented the steam engine?
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11th February 2012, 11:20 AM #16Senior Member
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O K, no arguement, but don't forget he was also very much a victim of the patent system himself - he was forced to develop the sun and planet drive because someone had already been allowed to patent the crankshaft, which in other applications had been around for many years.
Frank.
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16th February 2012, 10:17 PM #17GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Guys,
I'm back in town, miss me? lol
I've been reading for about 2 hours and still have a page to go!
As I understand it in the Newcomen engine and at least the early Watt engines the steam didnt lift the piston, the piston was lifted sucking in very low pressure steam, the power stroke as such was the condensing of the steam. So the only way to increase the power of the engine(given that 14.7psi-ish was its working pressure) was to increase the cyclinder size)
I'm pretty much with Gary about a lot of what Watt got up to, although to give you Watts side of the story, he believed that high* pressure steam was to dangerous. Of course some of us may say that he was smart enough to know that once high* pressure steam got going his condenser patents wouldnt be worth nearly as much(if anything).
As for how someone in Watts time got a patent on the crankshaft is anyones guess. Though the sun and planet drive did have the advantage of doubling the rpm of the flywheel. (was he able to patent the sun and planet?)
Stuart
*high pressure at the time being anything over 14.7psig
As always I could have it all backwards
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17th February 2012, 09:08 AM #20New Member
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Yep, I kept thinking of Ford, GM, etc jumping on "good ideas" that would make them have to lift their game, all the various carburetter companies stifling good ideas, the oil companies doing the same.
It's simply an example of "my ideas better than yours, despite the evidence"
It's nothing new, never has been never will.
cheers
Bill
ps yay, post number one!!
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