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Thread: Knurler for small hobby lathe
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14th November 2013, 07:46 PM #16SENIOR MEMBER
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Yes you can do that.
You always feed in the knurl with the spindle turning.
If the depth is not enough, you simply back out the knurl, add a bit more turn to the screw and feed it slowly back into the spindle.
The knurl will find and centre on the previous impression and you will get a perfect job.
There is an obvious limit on how deep the knurl can go, which is the depth of the pattern, at which point it will bottom out, and that's it.
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15th November 2013, 08:45 AM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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Here's a video I did a while back showing knurling with scissor type.
Build up a worn or undersize shaft - a quick and dirty fix - YouTube
You can also use scissor type the same way as conventional - there is no size limit to what they can handle.
The cheaper scissor knurl like I have can flex when feeding - as seen in the video, and has to be allowed for when setting up.
Using this method has the advantage that you can do multiple knurls on a shaft without changing settings every time you move position.
RobThe worst that can happen is you will fail.
But at least you tried.
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15th November 2013, 08:57 AM #18
Thread has had many good ideas and advice.
In using a knurler tho I have not seen any advice in using if possible tailstock or use of a steady to counter forces. As I said this is not always possible I know.
Does anyone use a steady when knurling?
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15th November 2013, 09:11 AM #19SENIOR MEMBER
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A knurl applys pressure to the job similar to heavy turning, so you must support the work in the same fashion.
Knurling close to the chuck can actually be a problem at times as the knurl is fairly bulky compared to a cutter.
I generally try to knurl the job early in the piece, so there is plenty of material to support the work.
You can then later machine up to the edge of the pattern, which will give a nice clean edge, where as if you knurl to a shoulder you will get a ragged edge.
RobThe worst that can happen is you will fail.
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15th November 2013, 02:00 PM #20
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15th November 2013, 02:35 PM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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There will be some pressure as the knurl wheels roll to mid point, but from then on it's the same amount as when screwing them down at the same point.
As the knurls are only applying pressure in the last few degrees before rolling to dead centre, it will be nothing like the continuous side thrust experienced with a standard straight knurl.
Most of the loading comes from the contained crushing action of the knurl pattern with a scissor knurl.
I was taught to use lube with steel, but never do, and it works OK.
For alloy you should use kero to avoid possible galling.
RobThe worst that can happen is you will fail.
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16th November 2013, 08:56 PM #22Philomath in training
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I commented in the "checking a surface plate thread", but I used the method that Rob suggested for making a knurled knob today. I have several sets of knurls with different pitches so rather than using a 1/4 of a turn, I had a think and brought each knurl in by half the pitch of the knurl and it worked nicely.
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