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    Default did you mean nutser

    yah thanks phil. I was sus on them. know i know.
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    Those are really, really invalid tests, Its late 1.00 am + I’ll let you know tomorrow afternoon. But using a 0,02 / m level like that will drive you nuts real quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welder View Post
    Thanks every one I am learning alot about lathe leveling '

    me too.
    i think.
    one thing i have learned is if you drop your level enough times eventually you lathe will read level.

    thanks every one.for taking the time to pest about this it funny and informative.
    in lots of ways .

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty steel View Post
    Twist is not the only aspect to consider. the centre line of the spindle has to be parallel to the bed ways. Think of a railway line starting on level ground and then going up or down hill. If the headstock end of the lathe is bolted down first and provision is made to raise or lower the tailstock end via shims or jacking screws, both removing twist and maintaining parallelism can be achieved regardless of the floor being level or the tray (cabinets) being level. ( Assuming the Headstock has been aligned correctly when viewed from above ).
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    Agreed.
    Anyway thats the way I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty steel View Post
    Twist is not the only aspect to consider. the centre line of the spindle has to be parallel to the bed ways. Think of a railway line starting on level ground and then going up or down hill. If the headstock end of the lathe is bolted down first and provision is made to raise or lower the tailstock end via shims or jacking screws, both removing twist and maintaining parallelism can be achieved regardless of the floor being level or the tray (cabinets) being level. ( Assuming the Headstock has been aligned correctly when viewed from above ).
    Russell
    Vertical alignment doesn't matter nearly as much as horizontal alignment. (though I will be checking it just for giggles)

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    Probably stealing Phil's thunder, but this jigger

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/fe...1/#post1475479

    is the approved mount for a level on a lathe bed - sits on the working surfaces of the ways.

    Michael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll and Hyde View Post
    That is true, but then what happens when you're actually making a cut? Won't the corner still lift, and then you'll get tapering or hourglass shapes anyway?

    It all starts to hurt my head, this 'under 1mm society' as someone called it the other day...
    Thats true if you carriage is warped. If you where only leveling a lathe and the carriage was true but the bed was twisted, the corner of the carriage would lift, but once you untwisted the bed all corners would touch.

    I have heard of people doing it that way, but I think your better off starting at the ground and working up, so in this case the bed.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty steel View Post
    Twist is not the only aspect to consider. the centre line of the spindle has to be parallel to the bed ways. Think of a railway line starting on level ground and then going up or down hill. If the headstock end of the lathe is bolted down first and provision is made to raise or lower the tailstock end via shims or jacking screws, both removing twist and maintaining parallelism can be achieved regardless of the floor being level or the tray (cabinets) being level. ( Assuming the Headstock has been aligned correctly when viewed from above ).
    Russell

    Your right there, that is where adjusting the A,B,C,D in the picture I posted will sort that out.

    Dave

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    Instead if parallels. would HHS do in a pinch.
    any way ive got it all figured out. i used this pair of bricks to clear the vees.


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    Ah! that's more like the Aaron we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzrock View Post
    Instead if parallels. would HHS do in a pinch.
    any way ive got it all figured out. i used this pair of bricks to clear the vees.


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    Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzrock View Post
    Instead if parallels. would HHS do in a pinch.
    any way ive got it all figured out. i used this pair of bricks to clear the vees.
    Never do that again Aaron!!
    I swear I nearly had another heart attack I laughed so hard.
    Hell, I'm still laughing

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    ROTFLMAO,
    HSS is fine, just use the same piece on the same side. I mark my level with a texta where it sits on the parallel and also mark the parallel where the level sits it. This way your not chasing yourself because your using the same spot each end.

    I know this sounds picky, but it has been talked about on other forums of the Starrett levels being concave, so if thats the case having the level an inch forward or back on the parallel will give different readings. Also not many cheap parallels are dead true when your chasing these small numbers.

    Dave

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    Also watch out for those beer bottles while leveling, the cold ones on one end will shrink the metal and the warm ones on the other will expand it, so it will put your level readings out on the bricks and make the test not worth while.

    Dave

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    Azz, you rock!!!!!!

    I think you just made every ones night......

    I've missed this thread since it was 1 page long, it rocketed to a decent size quickly. Nothing like a good laugh after a long and often brain failing read!

    Dave, i don't think the warm beer/cold beer really applies, you think Aaron would let his beer get warm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll and Hyde View Post

    It all starts to hurt my head, this 'under 1mm society' as someone called it the other day...
    I know what you mean

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