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9th November 2008, 03:14 AM #1
Yet another "What Lathe Is This?" post
Hi,
I bought a lathe on Ebay a few days ago, looked good in the pictures but the vendor knew nothing about it, other than he bought it a while ago has never used it and it came from a school.
The price was right, looks to be a robust machine, seems to be able to cut all the threads I would want, both imperial and metric, or so the plate says, has power crossfeed, (aparently from th photos on the site it has the engagement handle and the plate indicates it will do so), it was relatively local, ACT wheras I live near Cooma, only 110km away so to me that is local.So on an impulse I bought it.
The lathe was sold by Davden, but as I understanf it they are/were only re-badgers of imported machines and now appear to be fefunct.
As I am currently in Kuwait and won't be home until 24th December have had my wife and Son look it over for manufacturers plates etc and the info they obtaind is:
Enterprise 10
Model: EP-10
Machine Number: EP-817
Swing over bed is approximately 340mm
and its approximately 600mm between centres, (570mm from face of 115mm chuck to tailstock)
One more bit of info, one of the prospective buyers on Ebay said it looked like the lathe he used when he was a Narrahbundah college three years ago.
If anyone has any ideas who the manufacturer was and if anyone knows where I can get documentation I would be greatful.
Sorry the only photos I have come from the ebay advert, have cropped the one that shows the lathe best and hopefully added it to this post.
Craig
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14th November 2008, 11:53 PM #2
Hi,
It seems my family were not that observant when looking for the maker's plate.
It seems the lathe is an Indian one, its plate says:
The Mysore Kirloskar Ltd Model EP-10.
Have checked and it seems that the group is going strong but can not find info on their lathes.
Anyone help?
Craig.
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16th June 2009, 04:54 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Gday Craig,
I am quite familiar with your lathe, I know because I bought one of the other ones that were for sale! It used to reside at Lake Ginninderra College where I do metalwork courses in the evenings. All my life I have wanted a metal lathe at home, and I happened to be in the right place at the right time and picked up one of these lathes.
Like you I am interested in knowing a bit more about our machines. I have searched the internet extensively for info on these lathes and I cannot find anything. All I have found is advertisements for other Mysore lathes that have been for sale, and they all much much bigger than our lathes.
I have been in touch with the guy at lathes.co.uk regarding these machines, but he has never written back. Ill try again today to see if I can rouse him.
Re thread cutting. the manual says that "this lathe has a unique feature which facilitates selection of inch and metric threads easily" It then has diagrams showing the quick change mechanism in the gearbox that allows you to swap quickly between the two threads. Im not sure if this is a unique feature or not, perhaps some of the other machinists on here will be able to tell us if this is so. It also definately has a powered cross feed.
Vital Statistics for our lathes....
Centre Height 125mm
Admit between centres 600mm
Swing over bed 250mm
Swing over cross slide 140mm
Spindle nose 1 1/2"-8 Tpi -UN
Morse Taper in Spindle No.3
Spindle Bore 20mm
No, and range of speeds 12, 45 - 2000rpm
cross slide travel 160mm
compound slide travel 60mm
Leadscrew 8 tpi/3mm pitch
Tailstock quill taper Morse taper no.2
Quill traverse 75mm
H.P 1
Weight 240kg (thats not including our stands)
"If anyone has any ideas who the manufacturer was and if anyone knows where I can get documentation I would be greatful"
My friend you are in luck...I have a copy of the original documentation that was sold with these lathes, I am assuming youll want a copy. If you shoot me a personal message with your address ill photo copy and send out for you. However, lets keep discussing this lathe on this thread so that hopefully one day someone who knows more about them will stumble accross it and fill in the blanks for us.
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16th June 2009, 04:58 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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P.S These were bought by lake gininderra in 1989. I reckon a fair few ACT schools would have this model of machine in them.
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16th June 2009, 05:39 PM #5Senior Member
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A quick question to either of you two fellows, if it's not imprudent, what sort of dollars were they asking for these machines ?
regards radish
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16th June 2009, 05:53 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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I paid $350 including 3 jaw, 4 Jaw, spare set of unused jaws, live centre, dead centre, jacobs chuck, stand, spanners, quick change tool post, face plate, fixed and travelling steady etc, plus a stack of tooling (various cutters, boring bar etc). Basically everything that the school had accuired for the lathe over the past 20 years, and everything that was included with it when bought new.
I consider myself very lucky in being able to nab it...it was pure fluke. However It has gone to a good home and I will probably use it for the next 75 years.
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16th June 2009, 06:54 PM #7Senior Member
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You sir, have used your complete life time supply of luck up, with just this one purchase.
Don't ever bother wasting your money buying a lotto ticket again.
regards radish
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16th June 2009, 08:01 PM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, I know. I was/am pretty happy with myself!
It seems that some sort of divine power wants me to get my workshop up and running, as just the other day my cousin turned up at my place with 9m of 35mm stainless steel wrapped benchtops for me that his work pulled out of an old lab of some description and didnt want. The price - free. Well actually, I did have to unload them at night in the cold. That was arduous ; ) They are going to become my workbenches.
Once I have my garage setup ill post some photos.
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17th June 2009, 10:45 AM #9
Bugger, mine cost 3 times that, (more when you include costs of transport and delivery from ACT to my home) and did not come with all the other bits.
Brendan, you seem to be quoting from an owners manual? if so any chance of a scanned copy?
I have also searched the internet for info on the lathe but can only find info on its much bigger brothers. Wrote to the parent company but have not recieved a response.
My lathe is currently in bits, have stripped it down, both to re-paint/remove the bloody awful metalic blue paint slopped everywhere and to check it. Only bit of wear that is evident is on one of the gear selectors in the quick change gear box.
Craig.
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17th June 2009, 11:40 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Ha ha, yeah that paint is crap. I too am keen to give mine a respray. Is there much to stripping it down?
After some long searching I have found a vague list of models that Kirloskar sold, but there is no mention of our lathes at all. the smallest I have found so far is the Enterprise 355, which is a 3 horse 350mm x 800mm lathe. I cant find anything smaller than that, but will keep looking.
They also sold lathes under the Tunrmaster brand. But im not sure if this is a rebadge of the enterprise line or not. The TM 35/40/45/50 seem to line up with the E355/400 and 500. The majority of kirloskar lathes seem to be quite huge though...including the mighty E-3825 which has a 950mm swing!
I will PM you so I can get you the manual.
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13th July 2009, 04:50 AM #11New Member
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Enterprise ep10 lathe
Hi guys, I got one of those lathes too, but paid 2500$ for it with a ton of tooling and doccumentation, blueprints, etc.
If you want a copy of the paperwork, email me and ill ship a photocopy of everything i got on it, just pay for shipping and printing costs.
[email protected]
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13th July 2009, 10:53 AM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Hey carlos, good to hear from anothe EP10 owner. Do you know much about the history of the model? I searched the net for ages and only found sketchy info on the much much bigger kirloskar lathes. Seems ours are the baby of the lot.
What sort of stuff do you have available? I have an "instructions and spare parts manual" and "test chart"
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13th July 2009, 11:00 AM #13New Member
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ep 10 lathe
I have no background on the machine, but do you have the blueprints?
They give dimensions for some handy accessories such as an adjustable carriage stop.
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13th July 2009, 11:07 AM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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Nah no blueprints,
Ill send you an email to discuss getting them.
Brendan
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13th July 2009, 07:08 PM #15
Hi Carlos, welcome.
Good to hear that Brendan and I are not the only ones.
I am interested in the blueprints as well but will leave it to Brendan to contact you.
Brendan,
Happy to share the costs let me know how much.
Lathe is painted but still in bits, it is a wee bit chilly in my shed at the moment so will probably wait for more clement weather before having a go at painting the stand and re-assembling the lathe.
Craig.
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