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3rd July 2012, 12:28 AM #1
lead screw
Hi
My Hendey lathe has a worn top slide screw and nut . 12mm X 3mm pitch ACME LH
i found this and wonder if its suitable
TR12x3G*500mm Trapezoidal Acme Ballscrew Leadscrew L/H | eBay
x1pce Hexagonal 12x3 Trapezoidal Steel Nut Left Hand | eBay
Of course the cross slide is worn too 18mm X 5mm pitch LH ACME
That seller has 16 mm in LH thread ... I might have to go down to that size ?
Nit sure what 7e tolerance is ..but I bet its better than the sloppy worn out HENDEY
Mike
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3rd July 2012, 07:22 PM #2
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Still searching
This company may be worth a try as well .........Mike
www.mooreinternational.co.uk
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3rd July 2012, 07:32 PM #3
Hi Mike,
Can you not try to make one....just for the experience? Surely you can use the lathe as it is and get to use that magical reversing dog clutch?1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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3rd July 2012, 08:08 PM #4
maybe
Hi Ewan
The cross slide backlash on the Hendey is rather chronic, I'd hate to try and make a new lead screw on it as it is , it would be rather tricky to do as the tool might move . I maybe could use the Sheraton lathe as its much more ' tight ' in the crosslide .
I'd have to make a new nut as well, that's beyond me at this stage . Could you make a accurate 18mm diameter with 5mm pitch ACME bronze nut ?
I've noticed The Hendey has a short top slide travel for some reason, I don't know why they designed it that way its about the same travel as the Sheraton has, which is a much smaller machine
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3rd July 2012, 08:14 PM #5Senior Member
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I have purchased leadscrew/nut combinations from TEA Transmissions in Queensland (Engineering trade components supplier - Special purpose engineering products - TEA Transmissions Australia).
They had a stand at the National Manufacturing Week exhibition in Sydney recently and they have a range of very interesting equipment.
John.
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3rd July 2012, 08:59 PM #6Pink 10EE owner
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Buy more rod then you need and use the excess to make a tap.
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3rd July 2012, 09:43 PM #7
tap
Yes I did think of the tap idea .But I think would make it from drill rod and then harden it .
The nut would be made from bronze , I could rough cut it with a HSS tool, then do the final finish with the tap .
Thanks for the link John .... I will check that out at the library
MIKE
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4th July 2012, 08:49 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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If you don't mind me asking, what's involved in making an ACME tap?
Am I too simplistic to think of it as a piece of threaded rod (of the same thread) with flutes cut in it and then a chamfer or taper turned at the starting end? For a one off use in Bronze, would it need to be hardened?
Cheers,
Simon
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4th July 2012, 09:25 AM #9Philomath in training
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That's about it. For a one off use it probably doesn't need to be hardened. The important thing (especially with phosphor bronze) is that it is sharp. From that point of view hardened will probably hold an edge better.
Michael
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4th July 2012, 09:36 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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I would imagine the cutting edge of the flute will have to be in line with the centre axis of the acme rod, kind of like having the centre height right on your lathe. The bronzes I've worked with are 85% copper which is pretty soft in it's as cast condition but will work harden. Is it a single thread or a double thread?, the reason I ask is that on my lathe it's a left hand double start thread.
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4th July 2012, 02:35 PM #11
Once the Leblond is done i would say no worries(as long as i had the screw), but my little lathe doesn't like pitches that big. The idea of making a tap is good though. I would use a bit of silver steel for the screw and grind a tap with as many flutes as possible. I think Marks concern wouldn't be too much of a problem, so long as all the flutes are the same. I would want to finish grind them on a T&C grinder. Depending on the bronze you use it could work harden really quickly, or if you use a leaded gunmetal it will cut like butter but have a shorter life. Best to make a spare if this is the case.
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4th July 2012, 03:47 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Mike if you do make a tap and then "harden it" you will get some shrinkage of the diameter and also the length which will change the thread pitch slightly also.
How much I don't know ? But it would be a PITA if you go to all the effort and end up with a dodgy tap ?
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