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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Hope this is not too off topic, but I came across this just the other day



    Electricity Prices by State | Compare 2013 U.S. Electric Rates

    around 50% what we pay...
    the prices shown below include the so called "supply charge"..eg total bill divided by kWh

    the blank spaces are periods I forgot to record

    date Ave $$$ per kwh
    29/07/1994 0.120078489
    26/10/1994 0.121522369
    30/01/1995 0.123117597
    27/04/1995 0.124145394
    31/07/1995 0.121480583
    25/10/1995 0.124159261
    24/01/1996 0.126915839
    24/04/1996 0.126656566
    26/07/1996 0.123716404
    23/10/1996 0.12659411
    28/01/1997 0.131960151

    30/07/1997 0.125948167


    25/10/2002 0.159703936


    28/10/2003 0.197729796
    29/01/2003 0.177233877
    30/04/2003 0.211847411
    25/07/2003 0.194862655


    29/01/2004 0.20671179
    3/05/2004 0.212219976
    28/07/2004 0.197056856
    27/10/2004 0.197025786

    1/02/2005 0.205799842
    27/04/2005 0.215698529
    28/07/2005 0.196613088





    29/01/2007 0.207359077
    1/04/2007
    1/07/2007
    1/10/2007
    1/01/2008
    1/04/2008
    1/07/2008
    18/10/2008 0.224118541
    1/01/2009
    28/04/2009 0.236622291
    30/07/2009 0.227250643
    1/10/2009
    1/01/2010
    1/04/2010
    1/07/2010
    1/10/2010
    1/01/2011 0.267601476





    14/08/2011 0.316340694
    26/10/2011 0.294046016
    27/04/2012 0.31805383
    26/07/2012 0.314009379
    25/10/2012 0.393894484
    25/01/2013 0.413955647
    29/04/2013 0.430624727
    30/07/2013 0.402406658
    28/10/2013 0.408493558

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    I used a 240V halogen ( the small downlight type ) on the lathe, but they never lasted more than a month or so, I think the vibration plays havoc with the filaments, so I changed to a 240V LED downlight, so far, so good it's brighter and being all solid state the vibration doesn't seem to bother it.

    On the other end of the scale, the work light for the Deckel is going to be a 240V 100W led module.. The light is warm white, which is nice and pleasant to work with.

    100WLedFlood.JPG


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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    I used a 240V halogen ( the small downlight type ) on the lathe, but they never lasted more than a month or so, I think the vibration plays havoc with the filaments, so I changed to a 240V LED downlight, so far, so good it's brighter and being all solid state the vibration doesn't seem to bother it.

    On the other end of the scale, the work light for the Deckel is going to be a 240V 100W led module.. The light is warm white, which is nice and pleasant to work with.

    100WLedFlood.JPG


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    what is lumen output Ray

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    what is lumen output Ray
    8000-9000 lumens, roughly equivalent to 3 x 36" fluro tubes... ( although the ebay ad now says 9000-10000 ) when I bought it it was 8000-9000 Lumens

    100W Outdoor LED IP65 Floodlight White High Power Spot Flood Light AU Stock | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    WHAT!!!...i'm in the aircon business and I dont even have one in my shed....some of us are softies....hahahaha
    Yeah I admit I'm soft especially when its stinking hot outside but I reckon it has been well worth it.
    I got the AC from my a family member who was demolishing their old place and it was going to go into the skip.
    It was a bit rusty but a bit of phosphoric acid and a lick of paint seems to have stemmed the worst of it - even if I only get a couple of years out of it it will be worth it

    I have put my fluros on pull cords so that i can turn them off/on when I need it in that area of the shed I am in, rather than having all of them on 1 switch at the door.
    Solutions like that can make a difference. I have 3 separate switches so I can light up 3 different areas but after a couple of hours in the shed I find I usually have them all on.

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    Picked this little beauty up at Masters for $30.
    I have 24V halogen lighting on my lathe at the moment which gets so hot I can't turn the light off as the switch becomes inoperable.
    I needed something better.
    This lamp has a clamp base and a 'bendy' arm, and is LED. It won't allow me to replace the globe if it goes, still, if it lasts longer than the halogen...
    Nice and bright as well.

    Phil
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    I have a lathe and mill which have 32V DC lights which are a bit like a single candle! I have managed to get lights tangled in machines and sparyed with coolant and have seen some destryoed so I have never been brave enough to run a 240V light on a machine. All low voltage for me. I have one LED on a flexible stand, very handy.

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    One thing I have to do is check the light on my lathe. I want to use an led. I may have to put in a trannie to run it, but I may be able to use one of the outputs from the vsd.

    Dean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burner View Post
    I have a lathe and mill which have 32V DC lights which are a bit like a single candle! I have managed to get lights tangled in machines and sparyed with coolant and have seen some destryoed so I have never been brave enough to run a 240V light on a machine. All low voltage for me. I have one LED on a flexible stand, very handy.
    I can remember it used to be taboo to run 240 volt lighting on lathes etc. but is it still the same now we have all sorts of wizardry to save our electrical lives?
    It is the same when doing a clean out inside a boiler, the lighting had to be transformed to a low voltage DC. Battery powered headlamps are the go doing that work.
    I wonder if RCD's make it less dangerous now.

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    It is the same when doing a clean out inside a boiler, the lighting had to be transformed to a low voltage DC. Battery powered headlamps are the go doing that work.
    I wonder if RCD's make it less dangerous now.

    Phil
    Hi Phil,

    Thats an interesting point.

    WRT hazards in the workplace, the hierarchy of control measures clearly states it's preferable to eliminate or substitute the hazard (change from 240V to 12V etc) than to rely on engineering systems (i.e. RCD etc) for protection. Call me overly cautious but I would prefer to not have the hazard in the first place than to rely on an RCD to safely trip to save my life. I'd be sticking with ELV lighting. RCD's are a bonus!

    Simon
    Girl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    Hi Phil,

    Thats an interesting point.

    WRT hazards in the workplace, the hierarchy of control measures clearly states it's preferable to eliminate or substitute the hazard (change from 240V to 12V etc) than to rely on engineering systems (i.e. RCD etc) for protection. Call me overly cautious but I would prefer to not have the hazard in the first place than to rely on an RCD to safely trip to save my life. I'd be sticking with ELV lighting. RCD's are a bonus!

    Simon
    Actually Simon,
    That's a better point.

    Phil

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