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    Hi Bob,
    See p.s. above for some other ideas.
    Some torches wont have drivers/pucks in them.

    That mill is running somewhere around 3000rpm.*

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    Thanks for the replies and discussion so far.

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    I have a fluro mounted above on the frame I have its small but is bright. The only area I still have problems seeing is the markings on the cross slide tool post for angle placement. I painted all the MDF panels at the back white to help reflect also. Can't locate the photo ATM.

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    how can you guys hear your lathe and mill motors running...Oh I know.... you dont have a stereo and amp set at around 40 in your man caves...........even the cat comes running in when i turn it on


    bugga, if leds do strobe it has just tossed out my idea of getting some led flood lights above the lathe and mill then...but as i have 3 ph maybe not eh?

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    I have fluro's and CFL bulbs and i have never had any strobing problems.

    WRT LEDs, i would recommend not to get ones with a single chip. As the light source is so small they cast really sharp shadows and i have found these hard on the eyes.

    For a mill you really need one on each side as well.

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    Jim,

    I have a couple of Swedish SUNNEX lamps, one with a removable head, the other fixed. I like them. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/an...1/#post1416955

    I had purchased an articulated halogen lamp from Hare and Forbes but found it awkward to use on my little mill. The Swedes were more suited to the task. Much smaller too. The H and F lamp is a copy of a German Waldmann, the latter sometimes appearing on German Ebay at reasonable prices. Not IKEA prices though.

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    Jim Ferrous,
    I had the same problem with my lighting on the mill so I made up my own as I needed small bright lights that I could move into a variety of positions to see clearly and then swing them aside without loosing the setting. They can be made up completely or mount a commercial on a flexible arm.I used the LED style as they do not generate much heat and you can get a choice of light colours. I purchase mine from Deal extreme and they were only $6-00 each-could be even cheaper now.A few pictures showing the different bulb colours.The picture of the 45 degree cutter is the softer light and the end mill picture is the bright blue light, I prefer the blue light.
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    These IKEA lights are cheaper if bought off UK ebay with postage than if you bought them from Aus IKEA. Not sure if they are any good but I'm currently shopping for a new lathe light as well.

    Ikea White Jansjo LED Clip ON Light Work Lamp Reading Flexible Neck 102 142 13 | eBay

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    If you have an Ikea near you (or can talk someone into a favour), these look pretty good:
    TIVED LED wall/clamp spotlight - IKEA

    No mention of the Lumens, but an American woodworker gave them a good review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornetb View Post
    These IKEA lights are cheaper if bought off UK ebay with postage than if you bought them from Aus IKEA. Not sure if they are any good but I'm currently shopping for a new lathe light as well.

    Ikea White Jansjo LED Clip ON Light Work Lamp Reading Flexible Neck 102 142 13 | eBay
    They are the ones I fitted to my drill press.

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    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f155/g...-press-150156/

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    They look pretty good, thanks.

    Just realised my new drill press could do with some light too.

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    I wonder how much these will be https://www.ledcentral.com.au/produc.../?parent=73492
    There is probably something similar on ebay if you can find them. 4000lm is a lot of light.....
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    appologies if I should have posted a new thread

    After readin this thread yesterday I thought I had become keen to get led lighting for above the lathe and mill
    anyway trying to work out what a led floodlight would compare to say a fluro (cos that whats I have and I know how much light it throws on and around my shed and benches etc etc) and lots of googling I came across this:

    LED lights, marketing vs. reality : Energy Efficiency - Energy Matters Forum

    can any one dispute what he is saying, cos if he is right are we (or should that be "we are") being misled into thinking led is the best thing since sliced bread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    appologies if I should have posted a new thread

    After readin this thread yesterday I thought I had become keen to get led lighting for above the lathe and mill
    anyway trying to work out what a led floodlight would compare to say a fluro (cos that whats I have and I know how much light it throws on and around my shed and benches etc etc) and lots of googling I came across this:

    LED lights, marketing vs. reality : Energy Efficiency - Energy Matters Forum

    can any one dispute what he is saying, cos if he is right are we (or should that be "we are") being misled into thinking led is the best thing since sliced bread?

    When I first built my shed I strung up some temporary bayonets and fitted CF globes while I sorted out what I would do long term.
    When I first looked into a more permanent solution LEDs were a lot more to buy and power a bit less than today and I was convinced enough of the saving to buy a 1m strip of LEDs and do some testing I brought a light meter home from work but I didn't even need to turn on the meter to see I would have had to double the number of LEDs I first thought I would need to get enough light.
    Suddenly the savings were not so rosy, so with my $ payback time doubling I decided to procrastinate.
    Meanwhile dozens of fluoro light fittings were being thrown out at work and I scored half a dozen and installed these in my shed and am very happy with these as they cost me nothing and meant that LED payback time became even more marginal.
    There's a lot of apple and orange comparisons around e.g. comparing 12V Halogen down lights with LEDs, and some assumptions about usage patterns i.e. lights being on for silly periods during the day (and night) - maybe this is true in modern houses with poor windows and those awful down lights.
    My original budget involved 8 hour a day 7 days a week shed usage but I'm finding I'm battling to get an average of 4 hours a day in the shed so on this basis and what they were going to cost me to purchase recovery time would have blown out even more. The skylight I inadvertently built into the shed has also meant that when I'm in there, especially in the mornings, I don't need any lighting on. This suggests to me that a few more windows in sheds may be an even cheaper option.

    Now that electricity costs more and LEDs are a bit cheaper, perhaps if I was 20 years younger and had no option than to buy new fixtures and I had the readies I would go with LEDs.
    The real power sponge in my shed is not my lighting but my air con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
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    The real power sponge in my shed is not my lighting but my air con.

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    WHAT!!!...i'm in the aircon business and I dont even have one in my shed....some of us are softies....hahahaha


    I have put my fluros on pull cords so that i can turn them off/on when I need it in that area of the shed I am in, rather than having all of them on 1 switch at the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    power a bit less than today
    Hope this is not too off topic, but I came across this just the other day



    Electricity Prices by State | Compare 2013 U.S. Electric Rates

    around 50% what we pay...
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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