Thread: Old line shaft bench drill

I had one of these 25 years ago only a larger really heavy pedestal type and sold it for $50. Back then I didn't think about scrap price as it was low and I never really scraped anything. At the time I was glad to get rid of it out of the yard, but now I wish I didn't sell it.
If I was to see one again (like up your way where you can pick up some real good bargains on old tools) I would probably buy it to put in my planed antique garden display I am building, but wouldn't pay more than $30-$50 for it.
When you think of it who really wants it? Most people would just scrap it or throw it away to the tip. You can buy a used 16 speed pedestal drill for $100-$150.

Not to hijack your thread, I have to pick up a hand operated bench mounted drill press from my deceased mother in laws 3 doors down. I am going to put that in as well.

Dave

Originally Posted by Dave J

I had one of these 25 years ago only a larger really heavy pedestal type and sold it for $50. Back then I didn't think about scrap price as it was low and I never really scraped anything. At the time I was glad to get rid of it out of the yard, but now I wish I didn't sell it.

I did a similar thing about 15 years ago, I also had an old horizontal Mill (a Cincinatti I think) which sat in the corner of my shed for years waiting for me to get around to it. Eventually I sold that because at the time I wasn't interested in restoring old machinery. Now I wish I had kept it.

Originally Posted by Dave J

If I was to see one again (like up your way where you can pick up some real good bargains on old tools) I would probably buy it to put in my planed antique garden display I am building, but wouldn't pay more than $30-$50 for it.
When you think of it who really wants it? Most people would just scrap it or throw it away to the tip. You can buy a used 16 speed pedestal drill for $100-$150.

Thats what I'm thinking, As a drill press its worth nothing. Worth more from a historical point of view which still wouldn't be much. Still I'd like to have it in the shed all restored, but I'm not one for artworks hanging on the wall. lol


Dave[/QUOTE]

If she would be happy with $30, I would offer he that. It wouldn't be worth that much in scrap metal as the largest price I have seen scrap metal going for is $200 ton.

With the garden I am not one for having things hanging around as ornament either, but it's just to display a bit of family history. My wife is of the Holmes family where Holmesville originated from (we live in one of the original homes), so we have a lot of old tooling and things like that from past family, and larger things like an anvil that I still use and the drill press I spoke about from her father.
The garden is just outside my shed and is a 10ft triangle that we are going to put a roof on so I have some cover when walking down in the rain.
With all this old tooling around I thought it would be a good idea to get it out of the way and also be a conversational piece when friends come over.
On the corner of the house we have an old domed well that is dated 1896 that we still pump water out of for the horses and the garden.

Dave

Done up, that would go straight to the pool room.

It's gotta be worth more than $30, surely.

Ken

Depends. I paid $50 for a full height 6 inch column with a 2 inch backstay, 8 speed, 3 speed power feed and micrometer feed pillar drill. I've seen them got for as much as $350 but then this has some weight to it. A a garage sale good chance you would get nothing. On ebay anything could happen but most likely wouldn't. Sad to say I think $30 is a pretty good price.
If it was in my shed I might modify it for tapping.
Stuart

Originally Posted by neksmerj

Done up, that would go straight to the pool room.

It's gotta be worth more than $30, surely.

Ken

Ken you have let it out, there is no excuse for not having your mill at home.
If you have enough room for a pool table, clear it out to put your mill and lathe in there. Then you will have all the comforts of home, including air conditioning.
Come on whats more important, a game of pool or machining?

Just think it would only be a couple of steps away to coffee, meals and the toilet. You wouldn't have to go through the hassle of building the shed (unless you need to put the pool table in) and your tooling wont rust.

Dave

Originally Posted by Stustoys

If it was in my shed I might modify it for tapping.
Stuart

Great idea Stuart, I have one of those little 1/3hp Arlec bench top drill press that Kmart used to sell. My wife picked it up because it was on clearance for $40 when she was out shopping one day. I was thinking of modding it for a tapping stand, as it's not much good as a drill because of the runout. I have seen other guys convert them for the same thing.

Talking of tapping stands, have you seen one of those new mag base tapping stands in person from H&F's? The ones that you spoke about in one of your PM's.
I am just wondering how they hold the different size taps in them, maybe they come with a selection of collets, though it doesn't mention it in the add.

Dave

Now that's funny Dave, you got your drill from the same place I did.

By the look of it is have a proper tap chuck on it. If you haven't seen one, at the front something like a collet chuck but with a much wider range, it has eight (from memory) steel pieces mounted in a plastic holder that acts like the collet. Behind that is a clamp(two pieces of steel on a bolt with left and right hand threads) that grips the square drive of the tap. I have one in the shed I'd get some pictures tomorrow.
Stuart

You bought one instead of making it? LOL
I thought they where a bit expensive for what they do, did you buy through them, or someone else?

Dave

No, I dont have the H&F item. I just happen to have a tapping chuck is all. The sad part is where I got the tapping chuck from.

Stuart

I was wrong, it has six jaws

That looks mighty like a Jacobs Rubber - Flex collet or copy thereof. How well does it work ?

Rubber-Flex Collets

BT,
It is indeed a Jacobs No42102.
As far as I know they work great, but I've only used them with taps up to M4 so thats no big deal. Hey maybe it would make a good tap wrench?

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Depends. I paid $50 for a full height 6 inch column with a 2 inch backstay, 8 speed, 3 speed power feed and micrometer feed pillar drill. I've seen them got for as much as $350 but then this has some weight to it. Stuart

Stuart,

Are you talking about something the Yanks call a camelback drill? At times I've yearned for Hercus' version, but they have always been too far away.

How about some nice detail snap shots of your drill.

BT