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    I received a copy of a 1973 publication, written by Wilbert Olds

    The chapter on machining lube I scanned , in part

    At one point he mentions a mixture of mineral oil and a margarine type oil ?

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    Do you intend making your own for cost reasons or just for the sake of it.
    Any reason why you dont just buy ready made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipeclay View Post
    Do you intend making your own for cost reasons or just for the sake of it.
    Any reason why you dont just buy ready made.
    Yes the cost factor . If I can make a useable cutting up solution myself , I'd rather do that than buy the modern synthetic stuff that costs an arm and a leg . I might be barking up the wrong tree again but its worthwhile investigating it as an option

    I have another book of 1943 vintage , written by William Forbes : LUBRICANTS AND CUTTING . He goes into greater detail , his book is specifically aimed at machining . I'd like to scan the whole book and make a CD . If only I had the PDF software to convert JPG to PDF format . Mike

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    A couple of scans from the Forbes book

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    Hi Mike,
    It is an interesting idea.....but, for the amount of coolant you are likely to use i would just suggest buying it. With my mill clean i changed from soluble oil to a synthetic oil. I got Carlingford Ultra Synthet 971. It is a green product that is nearly clear when mixed. it is only mixed at 5% and cost $45 for 5L. It also won't go off like soluble oil does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Hi Mike,
    It is an interesting idea.....but, for the amount of coolant you are likely to use i would just suggest buying it. With my mill clean i changed from soluble oil to a synthetic oil. I got Carlingford Ultra Synthet 971. It is a green product that is nearly clear when mixed. it is only mixed at 5% and cost $45 for 5L. It also won't go off like soluble oil does.
    hi Ewan

    Where did you buy that stuff ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    hi Ewan

    Where did you buy that stuff ?
    Just my local industrial supplies. Not sure if you can get it online somewhere or not.

    http://www.callingtonhaven.com/_asse...synthet971.pdf
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    Morrisman/Mike,
    how big is each scan (file size)? I'd be happy to do the PDF conversion if you can e-mail the scans.
    On the other hand, there are lots of free PDF converters on the net. PrimoPDF is one I tried and liked: PrimoPDF - CNET Download.com. Mostly I use Adobe Acrobat for better contol - I have a full legal version...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Morrisman/Mike,
    how big is each scan (file size)? I'd be happy to do the PDF conversion if you can e-mail the scans.
    On the other hand, there are lots of free PDF converters on the net. PrimoPDF is one I tried and liked: PrimoPDF - CNET Download.com. Mostly I use Adobe Acrobat for better contol - I have a full legal version...
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    Thanks for the offer Joe . But I will download that software you pointed me to and have a go at the conversion myself .. Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    I received a copy of a 1973 publication, written by Wilbert Olds

    The chapter on machining lube I scanned , in part

    At one point he mentions a mixture of mineral oil and a margarine type oil ?

    Mike

    Margarine is hydrogenated vegetable oil, there's a commercial tapping fluid that's hydrogenated as well, will see if I can come up with a brand name for it next time I look at the tin.

    I'd also be interested in a copy of those scans, Open Office which is a free download also has an export to PDF option for creating PDFs.

    I'm still running some experiments with emulsified mineral oil, so far the homemade soap version is still emulsified fine whereas the Lux soap version has turned to a solid lump of gel. This is a mix without borax or potassium hydroxide which would also have to be added.

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    I found this online: AF Fluids Coolants and Lubes which are available at metalsaw.com. They are pretty interesting products and are sold at a reasonable price. I guess they are sold at around $130+ for 5 gallons. I even downloaded a pdf file on the products’ details for everyone’s convenience and reference.

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