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    Just back from Ballarat with a Maho MH700 on the back of a hire truck.

    When the mill was first listed on ebay I put it in my watch list. As I am flat out building my house I did not go and have a look at the mill as I was expecting it to sell for more than the starting bid. I was then surprised when it did not attract a bid. When it was re listed I saved it again and forgot about it until an email alert came that it was ending. When I checked out the listing it still did not have a bid, so I gave the guy a call.

    When I called and asked if the mill could be powered up the guy said sure I will just turn it on! And a motor started up in the background...He then mentioned that a guy who had serviced his CNC mill that day had had a look at it. I said "would the guys name be Phil.....Yes it is how did you know....

    I then got off the phone and tracked down Phil (Mactool's) number via Phil (Steamwisper). Phil's assessment was that the mill was in pretty good condition for its age. The ways still show their original scraping marks and there is no scoring of the ways. All the speeds and feeds work and the head and gear box was not noisy. The only issues where that the horizontal arbor support is missing and the y axis rapid release is a bit sticky. Needs a good clean but Phil is surprised it has not sold. Defiantly worth a look....but the auction ends in two hours.

    I let the auction end and call the guy the next morning to organise an inspection after work. I have never seen a Deckel or Maho in the flesh and am very impressed with the German engineering. This thing is beautifully made and in good condition. After negotiating I buy the mill for $3100 and a Wohlhaupter UPA3 boring head and an Japanese Eron Kurt style vice for an additional $500. The tooling budget is like the Australian federal budget, but I am set for life with my new mill and very happy.

    A big thank you to Phil Mactool for his advice as I would have been very nervous making such a large purchase based on my very limited experience. Thanks also to Craig the seller for his help loading and securing the mill and for loaning me a large steel bar and slings to get it off at the other end.

    Only problem now is I need to build my new shed with 3 phase power before I can use the mill.

    Cheers

    Piers

    PS. If anyone has any info on the Maho 700 are any manuals please let me know.image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg
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    Well done Piers, you should be very happy with her. I'ts a certain bet then you didn't buy the Vernier you were asking me about.....i think the Maho will be (nearly-but i'm not biased) as good.

    Was there an issue with a bearing cover or something? Toggy mentioned it at some stage.

    What is its envelope, speeds etc?

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    Ew,

    I see from Piers photos that the spindle cover is back on. Those Gamet bearings under it and the spindle that spooked me. Also if the seller had of been more co-operative and not so sparing with his words he have may well have sold it long ago to the detriment of my bank balance.

    Congrats to Piers.

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    Hi Ew,

    I could not make it to the inspection for the Vernier mill so I let it go. It went for 1300 plus fees.

    acording to the seller the powered travel is X 500 Y 320 Z 400. There is also an additional 200mm of Y manual travel on the table from what I can see.

    The table tilts in two planes and the whole table top is a rotary table so that saves me the expense of a new rotary table...

    18 Speeds from 32 to 1600 rpm
    18 feeds from 10 to 500 mm/min

    Photos of the speeds and feeds attached. Does anyone know what the knob under the feeds chart is for? Only noticed it now and the mill is a friends work so I can't easily check it out...

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piers037 View Post
    Does anyone know what the knob under the feeds chart is for? Only noticed it now and the mill is a friends work so I can't easily check it out...
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    I'm guessing it's selecting between hi and low speed feed ranges on the gearbox? But I can't relate that to the icons?

    Either that or switching between vertical feed and horizontal?

    Nice machine by the way. I will follow the restoration with interest.

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    Could be an oil filler port...
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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    Thanks Ray and RC for your ideas. Looking at the attached photo low/high range is selected with the first knob on the left. I think RC might be correct but the icons don't make much sense.

    Has anyone heard of a Sydney company called Metalex? Apparently the mill came from Sydney.

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    It is pretty simple actually.... You have two ranges... As you say the left side knob that has two positions, that is the range....

    Then you use the colour coding on the next two to get the spindle speed..... blue. blue gets you one speed, then blue, red the next speed.. Then blue, yellow the next speed and so on and so on....

    For the lower set which is the table feeds it is the same...

    You will notice two sets of numbers though, that is because the x and y speeds are not the same, but geared differently in the saddle... Just like on a lathe, the longitudinal feed and cross feeds are never the same amounts....

    And I am even more certain those black knobs are oil filler holes...

    And Metalex, could very well be a previous owner of the machine, some of those big companies that owned machines had their own plate to put on them and an asset number...
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piers037 View Post
    Hi Ew,

    I could not make it to the inspection for the Vernier mill so I let it go. It went for 1300 plus fees.

    acording to the seller the powered travel is X 500 Y 320 Z 400. There is also an additional 200mm of Y manual travel on the table from what I can see.

    The table tilts in two planes and the whole table top is a rotary table so that saves me the expense of a new rotary table...

    18 Speeds from 32 to 1600 rpm
    18 feeds from 10 to 500 mm/min

    Photos of the speeds and feeds attached. Does anyone know what the knob under the feeds chart is for? Only noticed it now and the mill is a friends work so I can't easily check it out...

    Cheers

    Piers
    Hi Piers, could it be for inching the table?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piers037 View Post
    Does anyone know what the knob under the feeds chart is for? Only noticed it now and the mill is a friends work so I can't easily check it out...
    The symbol on the RHS of that knob is a standard graphic for a clutch. The one on the LHS I can't find but I would suggest that if the one on the right is a clutch then if the knob is the other way it is either disengaged or locked (braked).

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Could be an oil filler port...
    Thats what i think too, just going by where the oil level sight glass is and there doesn't seem to be an obvious filler cap anywhere else. The symbol on the left could look like a funnel with something being pored into it....or not

    But then i agree with Michael, that sure looks like the symbol for clutch on the right.....

    Ew

    On edit, found something....may or may not be of use Maho MH600 : Fraiseuses - Usinages
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    well done. how fun. what a fantastic looking machine.
    a decent size to.
    I want a universal table
    what are you going to make with it
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    Thanks guys for your input.

    Ew, I had not come across that page in my searches, thanks. I have found virtually nothing on the web about 1970's MH 700's

    Aaron, apart from the the usual list of things on the to build list, the main jobs for the mill are building jigs and suspension parts my Lancia 037 replica.

    One job that the tilting and rotary table will come in very handy for is the lower control arms. See link

    Trapecio inferior delantero - Lancia 037 Teo Martín Motorsport

    If I can work my way up to this level of machining the mill will pay for itself with just these parts alone.......

    Cheers

    Piers

    some more photos of the Mill. table damage, name plate and nice dial gauge to enable you to return the table to a precise location after using the rotary table. There are also the same gauges on the two tilting axis of the table.
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    There are some fantastic pics of all sorts of nice machines on that forum, if you know a little French it is not too bad to navigate.

    That dial is a Kafer, they are beautifully made German dials, every bit as good as Mahr IMHO. Then there is the H&K badge, another German company, i guess they had there own importers here. I'd say Metalex would be one of the previous owners. H&K made their own version of the FP1 at one stage, but with a reeves drive. Page Title I have a little H&K 1um dial gauge bought new not so long ago.

    Enough waffling,

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    great plan. hot looking car to. is that going to drive on the road?
    Ive neever seen one of these mills but it looks kita.
    the table damage is a shame. Any plans to fix that or are you
    going to just live with it. My deckel has some similar damage.
    have fun

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