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17th May 2015, 08:15 PM #16Philomath in training
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Hmm.
The Lee Valley stuff was looked at but does not offer as much flexibility size wise (although it comes close). The down side is the slide method which does not lend itself to different applications (that is, the carcase must be timber over a certain thickness).
Another option is of course a pre-made tool chest. Fine for what it is, but the size is fixed - one of the things we were trying to get away from if you haven't the space, have over sized things or are only storing a small quantity of items.
Ball bearing slides are a possibility but the smallest one of those I've ever been able to find is still 17mm high. For lightly loaded drawers (which is what we intended this to be for) I've never had a problem with timber or plastic strips as the slides (the prototype uses PE), but the gaps must be small and candle wax is the secret ingredient to make it all work. I have found that any slides need a (comparatively) rigid structure - if they can twist or one side extends more than the other BB slides can jam too.
Might be back to the drawing board with this one...
Sigh.
Michael
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17th May 2015, 08:36 PM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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Storage
I store my measuring gear in wooden drawers I made from pine and ply, I prefer wood for this because I impregnate the wood inside with oil and then lay carpet on the bottom also oiled up. The remainder of my tools are mostly stored in metal toolboxes with oily carpet as a base. I think it would very much be a niche market, not so much for people who hang out on this forum as they, or at least I, enjoy making stuff, wood, steel, plastic, doesn't matter. I think the niche would be more for the part time shedder rather than forumites. Selling is directly linked to advertising, advertise and there will always be some part of the market that simply cannot live without it.
Storage options are like tools, you can never have too many to choose from!
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17th May 2015, 08:53 PM #18GOLD MEMBER
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Patents are a waste of time and more importantly money unless you have got very deep pockets to defend them with, big companies use them because they have the resources to defend them legally. I have some experience and been at the wrong end of patent infringement so take that for what it is worth. Apart from that the pricing you are looking at is way too high and won't fly IMO. A drawer 600mm square will require 1.2 metres of material at $30/metre which is clearly not economic. Look at the cost price to you and add enough margin to sell it at the price you would be happy to pay. With most products there is a psychological barrier that most people object to going over and you have to assess and decide where it is. Put yourself in the position of having to watch the pennies and look very hard at the price that way. Best of luck with it, I am in the middle of a similar project.
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17th May 2015, 10:05 PM #19Senior Member
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I would think selling online would be the way to go, you just need a good way make people aware the product is out there. From the description given. I think it is a product i would consider. I can pretty definatly say this isnt something my friends would buy. My circle of friends and i are in our mid 20's and I'm the only one who spends spare time fixing and making stuff. hope that helps.
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18th May 2015, 01:55 AM #20China
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I would not buy it but then I am a cabinet maker and making draws is second nature to me, I think the cost would have to come down
most people these days wan't something for nothing, just look at the rubbish IKEA manage to sell
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18th May 2015, 02:09 PM #21Bit of a Tool
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Would the extrusion section profile be the same for the sides as for the fronts & backs? How would they be cut and joined? Is it saving time or money or is it physically/functionally superior in some way? Is it saving enough time (or do I need/care enough about its superior properties/function) to pay more for it than the alternative option(s). These days if I have to think too hard about a convenience product I tend to just move on. It may be that I don't understand what you are really offering and that you just need to present your idea in a way I can understand. I am a disorganised person who needs more drawers. I couldn't see myself making a drawer less than about 40mm in height and at that height I would probably use BB runners or plain wood in a routed channel so you would have to interrupt me buying the runners with your idea which would have to be clearly cheaper or faster or better. Hope it's helpful, good luck.
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