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16th October 2011, 02:06 PM #106SENIOR MEMBER
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OK, that's useful, thanks.
Lot of scope for making one at those prices....
The camelback ones strike me as elegant in appearance but more of a PITA to make the pattern, plus more of a PITA to set up for milling. The rectangular ones are a lot simpler and easier to hold. For really big ones, the decrease in metal for equivalent stiffness and therefore weight might be worth it but in sizes we're talking about, I can't see it.
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16th October 2011, 10:51 PM #107
if anyone else is interested in a granite plate kindly contact me in the next few days.
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17th October 2011, 07:06 AM #108New Member
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18th October 2011, 06:23 AM #109SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi all,
I got the chance to inspect the metrology department at our local University yesterday. Apparrantly at work we are affilliated with them and are allowed to use their facilities. In the Metrology room were two Granite tables, one was six foot by four foot and the other four foot by three foot. The larger one had a wooden cover on it that was in bad need of repair while the smaller one is the one used by the trade apprentices as a desk while doing their exams. I asked the trade teacher if they had any camel backs which then required an explanation as to what one was. Looking around the room I found one, it was sitting near the rusty cylindrical squares, oops, sorry, paperweights for the exam papers. I asked him if he was ok with me using some of the facilities and he replied, "so long as I bring him a couple of beers it should be ok"
Lucky me. Still at least I now have some gear at my disposal.
Scrape on gentlemen.
Phil
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18th October 2011, 08:08 AM #110
How about just giving him a few more beers to permanently liberate them from the clutches of heathens? (The portable things I mean)
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18th October 2011, 08:16 AM #111GOLD MEMBER
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18th October 2011, 08:21 AM #112
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18th October 2011, 09:46 AM #114SENIOR MEMBER
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Cylindrical squares
I have a reasonable amount of round Durabar in 75mm & 100mm diameters. Lovely to machine. I've got to wondering now if this would make good base stock for cylindrical squares.
Likely need it ground on a cylindrical grinder to finish. Worth a bit of thought...
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18th October 2011, 10:20 AM #115GOLD MEMBER
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18th October 2011, 05:05 PM #116SENIOR MEMBER
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It would be fine, hardened and ground is nice, but there’s plenty of stable cast iron used in metrology, angle plates for instance. You just have to handle them like they are soft. As you should with all instruments.
I wouldn’t exceed about 3:1 height to diameter ratio. So 225h for the 75mm and 300h for the 100mm.
And here’s the trick, don’t just put a centre in each end, like all the ones you can buy. Drill and tap the centre M5 or M6, then single point bore the centre’s, it doesn’t matter if the centre ends up being 7 or 8 mm diameter. A grinder dead centre will still run on that.
It makes it a much more versatile tool. You can use that tapped centre hole to mount it to things. Just like a toolmakers button.
And don’t forget to drill and tap another hole, out near the land on the end, so you can screw in a pin and use that as a drive dog.
Regards Phil.
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18th October 2011, 05:25 PM #117SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks for that, good information. Particularly the offset tapped hole for a driver, I was thinking I'd have to make up a big drive dog for the thing.
I tend to baby my metrology gear so soft isn't a big deal.
If I make 2 I can check if the grinder got them right or not...
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18th October 2011, 08:53 PM #118SENIOR MEMBER
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Funny thing happened today Greg, we got a phone call from the Metrology department at the uni. It seems that after we left they decided that maybe two granite tables are one too many so they have decided to donate one of them to us for our use. They are now deciding on which one. Fingers crossed for the larger one and they keep the smaller table/desk for their own use. They dont do metrology anymore but might in the future.
Here's hoping
Phil
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18th October 2011, 09:04 PM #119
Whoa, that's brilliant! and very generous of them.
Joe
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18th October 2011, 09:06 PM #120SENIOR MEMBER
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Could not have belted the smile off my or my bosses face all day Joe
Phil
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