Thread: thoughts on this mill

well i passed as PDW started a thread for information on pm and they are production mills which are not very versitle. i will stay on the hunt for the right price Bridgeport.

i was talking to the guys at about work about mills an he said his friend has a Prvomajska ALG-100 he says it has a great range of attachments and original tooling. no sure about he price yet.

That's pretty much a Deckel FP-1, which is the mill that I am currently restoring. That type of mill is often termed a "universal toolmaker's mill". They can do pretty much everything, they are very rigid for their size, and they are compact. If you can get a mill like that with tooling then you will be set for all of your jobs that require accuracy yet are no bigger than a shoe box*. For everything else there are the giant Cinci/Huron/Hurco/etc mills which can mill objects five or ten times larger. Not that you'd be able to lift them.

* yet, because of their removable horizontal table, you can often fix stupidly large jobs to the vertical table and work on the entire piece or just some features.

Thanks Greg
I will check he price tomorrow hopefully i's not thousands of dollars although i am no holding my breath

Compact. I like that and will use it. More eloquent than too ....... small. And Andre, the shoe box GQ mentions is from the young boys section.

Originally Posted by Greg Q

That's pretty much a Deckel FP-1, which is the mill that I am currently restoring. That type of mill is often termed a "universal toolmaker's mill". They can do pretty much everything, they are very rigid for their size, and they are compact. If you can get a mill like that with tooling then you will be set for all of your jobs that require accuracy yet are no bigger than a shoe box*. For everything else there are the giant Cinci/Huron/Hurco/etc mills which can mill objects five or ten times larger. Not that you'd be able to lift them.

* yet, because of their removable horizontal table, you can often fix stupidly large jobs to the vertical table and work on the entire piece or just some features.

Agree with all of that. Andre, if you can get it at a price you can afford, grab it. You can always trade it or sell it if you need more capacity (or just buy a big horizontal mill as well).

PDW

He wants $ 2500 for it and it comes with tilting table , dividing head , slotting head and horizontal arbors

If it has the vertical head and any tooling it is a fair price. On the market those accessories alone would cost most of $2500. If he won't budge on price see if he has a good boring head to go with it. The only thing you'd need extra would be a rotary table. Deckel collets or a couple of ER chucks and a collet set.

FWIW I paid a lot more for my Deckel with those things and a Wohlhaupter boring head.

If you can swing the money and it passes inspection its something that will likely hold 100% of its purchase price, maybe more on the market.

Greg

Originally Posted by Greg Q

If it has the vertical head and any tooling it is a fair price.

Agree. I think I recall one selling on Ebay for around $3500 some time last year.

If it *doesn't* have the vertical head, it's worth less IMO. You might find a VH but it could be a long wait, too. All depends on what you have in mind for it.

PDW

The mill is a 1968 model that has been in storage for the last 30 years. and it does have a vertical head.

Jump at it.

he will take i out of storage an sen me pictures during Easter I want buy it but i don't have 2500 unless i can sell my rf31 mill drill for $800 an start saving my paychecks now

I will buy your mill drill for $80, Oh it was supposed to be $800, I will leave it.

Dave

If you pass on it Welder please consider having the seller advertise it here. That's a lot of mill for the money. Add the cost of a good dividing head and a slotter to your RF 31 and you'll see the value.

If you do get it register on Practical Machinist and pour over the old threads on Deckel FP1 restorations and servicing. I can send you some information on Deckels that would be at least 90% the same as that mill.

You will need to replace the old oil, check the condition of the cotton wicks inside that distribute lube oil, and, if it is a needle bearing vertical head you'll need to service it with modern grease whcih I can supply (its special grea$e, but I have enouh to last me until....your grandkids inherit the mill which you so carefully maintained.

Greg