Mill vice rebuild

**Ueee** · 13th August 2013, 11:21 PM

This is a bit of a follow up from here https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/my...e-vice-155574/

Firstly, Michael, I havn't forgotten...i have some ply earmarked and will get the grinder boxed up this week. Really.

Since i now have the Blohm i though it time to finally give this vice a once over. Oddly enough the big Archdale radial arm drill at the ANU grays auction had the same vice on the table. Again no makings. But it did have a swivel base. I might have to make one myself, but i think i'll need the LeBlond to swing it.

Anyhow, i skimmed the top of the vice jaws flat on the grinder, and then flipped it over and did the base.
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Then i took the moving jaw off and skimmed the base of the vice. This was more than a skim, it was all over the place! The coke bottle just happened to be around, and the reflection looked good....
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Once clean i could see what holes i was going to fill, and finally after 12 months or more, the CI BT sent me was put to use. The plugs are around a .0005" interference fit, with a little loctite added for good measure. Gotta love the spray of loctite from the hydraulic action of putting the plug in! Just need to do the big hole tomorrow and back to the grinder.
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Cheers,
Ew

**Anorak Bob** · 13th August 2013, 11:47 PM

I like the plugging Ew. Good to see a bloke do a proper job.

**Brobdingnagian** · 13th August 2013, 11:55 PM

I can't remember if you got some mag parallels with the grinder or not?

**RayG** · 13th August 2013, 11:57 PM

Hi Ewan,

So... let me think, does this rebuild project mean I can hang onto that Glacern vise that's sitting here on the bench?

I like that you are getting immediate value from the surface grinder, everything from here on on will be mirror finish, and micron accuracy... gotta love it!

Regards
Ray

**Ueee** · 13th August 2013, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Brobdingnagian

I can't remember if you got some mag parallels with the grinder or not?

No. they have moved up to very close to the top of my to get list, along with an angle dresser and grinding vice.
I'm not sure how to use them though with no lamination's to line up with??

**Ueee** · 14th August 2013, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Ewan,
So... let me think, does this rebuild project mean I can hang onto that Glacern vise that's sitting here on the bench?

Hi Ray,

For as long as i can hang on to the Waldown high speed drill sitting on the floor.....

The problem with this vice is the moving jaw is so long it fouls on the arbor support if i use the mill horizontally with smaller dia cutters. It is also too tall for the parallels i have unless you are machining stuff over an 1" thick.

Ew

**Brobdingnagian** · 14th August 2013, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ueee

No. they have moved up to very close to the top of my to get list, along with an angle dresser and grinding vice.
I'm not sure how to use them though with no lamination's to line up with??

I thought they might have bumped up on the priority list if you did not have them considering this thread.
They still work as long as the laminations are parallel, the laminations don't need to line up perfectly with the chucks laminations, but it is stronger if they do. My advice is to make some up since you have the technology

The real tricky ones to make are where you twist the mag field 90 degrees.

Edit: I have a grinding vice recommendation for you. just need to dig up the details.

**Anorak Bob** · 14th August 2013, 12:47 AM

Ew,

I have a small pair of Eclipse magnetic parallels. I can't see myself ever using them so they are yours if you want them. If you think they may be of use I'll send you a photograph. I don't want you thinking I'm palming off sh.t

**Brobdingnagian** · 14th August 2013, 12:51 AM

Here is the one I was thinking of.. I'm sure you can see why I like it as a grinding vice.

AUTOWELL Power vise & Workholding Fixtures – MC power vise / machine vise / tooling block

Actually the one I really like is a Hilma but who can afford them.

**Ueee** · 14th August 2013, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Brobdingnagian

Here is the one I was thinking of.. I'm sure you can see why I like it as a grinding vice.

AUTOWELL Power vise & Workholding Fixtures – MC power vise / machine vise / tooling block

Actually the one I really like is a Hilma but who can afford them.

Taiwan tools have a similar one Taiwan Tools:Machine Tools Accessories-Milling Machine Accessories,Vise,Milling Machine Accessories,Machining Center Accessories,Grinding Machine Accessories,Vise,Rotary Table Dividing head,Drill Chuck

I found myself on the Hermann Schmidt website the other day. Dangerous stuff https://www.hschmidt.com/productcart...15&viewAll=yes

**Michael G** · 14th August 2013, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by RayG

... everything from here on on will be mirror finish, and micron accuracy... gotta love it!

As one of those without a surface grinder and no room to put one the standard being raised even higher doesn't generate feelings of love. (More like lots of envy coupled with a little despair

). I think there is nothing for it but to bulldoze the neighbour's house and put a bigger shed up. I wonder if they will object?

Michael

**j.ashburn** · 14th August 2013, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

I like the plugging Ew. Good to see a bloke do a proper job.

Yep me too can't stand ''white ants''

**Toggy** · 14th August 2013, 09:13 AM

Ewen,

It would be such a shame to "cheapen" a fine German machine with an asian vise.

Ken

**Oldneweng** · 14th August 2013, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Michael G

As one of those without a surface grinder and no room to put one the standard being raised even higher doesn't generate feelings of love. (More like lots of envy coupled with a little despair

). I think there is nothing for it but to bulldoze the neighbour's house and put a bigger shed up. I wonder if they will object?

Michael

Plenty of room across the road Michael

.

Dean

**Bryan** · 14th August 2013, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Michael G

I think there is nothing for it but to bulldoze the neighbour's house and put a bigger shed up. I wonder if they will object?

Only if they're alive.

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