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7th April 2011, 11:04 PM #1.
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Milling an inside radius
I am trying to work out a way of milling an internal radius of 392 mm. This is the radius of the inside face of the curved side of my cast iron look-a-like plane. ( I know this will be a shock to Stuart but I don't own an 800mm diameter rotary table let alone a machine to mount it on! )
The length of the curved surface(s) is only 80mm long. I had been thinking of knocking something up out of 25 mm MDF in the form of a pair of pivoting arms, say 600 x 200, one mounted flat above the other. The lower arm would be bolted to the mill table. The upper arm would slide across the lower arm with the plane body clamped onto it, the correct distance from the pivot point.
I would have to devise a way of preventing the set up from lifting during cutting. The cuts woud be light as required by the flimsy set up. I could come up with something far more robust in steel incorporating a fine feed mechanism but that could end up being a bigger project than the plane.
Any suggestions?
BT
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7th April 2011, 11:19 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Well not yet you don't, but now you have the perfect excuse to go buy one. Problem solved.
Doesn't the table on your mill pivot? Just bolt it to the table and pivot the table by hand.
If not you could mount the plane onto a piece of square tube clamped in a swivel base vice. If you make the tube long enough to come out the other side of the vice you now have a handle to pull the work past the cutter. Get what I mean?
Stuart
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7th April 2011, 11:24 PM #3
On edit, I removed my comment because now I realise what you are talking about. I'll be back.
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7th April 2011, 11:35 PM #4.
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Stuart,
I understand, but the pivot point or centre point is beyond the end of the table.
BT
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Here is the best picture I have of what I was talking about.
The 25mm SQ black bar is about 3ft long, the swivel base is loose enough that you can move it but wont lift. The radius would only be about 100mm but your cutters are likely sharper than that one
With your MDF idea you would just need an up side down L bolted to the fixed board hoooked over the end of the moving board to stop it lifting.
Stuart
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7th April 2011, 11:41 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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How long is your table? Maybe you pictures make it look bigger than it is
Stuart
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7th April 2011, 11:47 PM #7
I like Stu's idea. In fact, if you had a rigid enough tube you could fashion a pivot point out of a stud, a tee-nut and a bearing or two. If long enough (2 metres?) you could probably control the feed by hand.
OK, I see you've mentioned that the table is too short to allow the pivot being on the table. Maybe a metal version of your MDF idea might afford more rigidity? Probably still not enough though.
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8th April 2011, 12:11 AM #8.
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Roughly 600mm. It rotates about it's centre and while I can move the entire table along the vertical face of the longitudinal slide, I can't get it anywhere near the position I need it in to be able to use it as a "rotary table"
The vise as a pivot makes sense. I have a little Hercus T & C vise that could be well suited to the idea. Another way might be to buy a piece of 400 x 150 x 10 flat bar and fix it per GQ's suggestion with some kind of extension handle.
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8th April 2011, 12:19 AM #9
Does it have to be milled on a milling machine?
What about doing it on a face plate on a lathe, admittadly setting it up at the requisite 392mm radius might be fiddly
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8th April 2011, 12:24 AM #10.
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There may be another way of achieving the rigidity required. The 13's dividing head and tailstock sit on a 540mm long swivel saddle. This is a tee slotted cast iron beam. I could come up with some Heath-ish adaption that might allow the mounting of the plane body. This beam has a pivot to enable partial rotation on the mill table.
Could be the answer.
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8th April 2011, 12:30 AM #11Dave J Guest
I see there have been a few posts put up while I have been drawing.
Something similar to this would work and could be made up to be bolted together.
The bottom tube could be bolted to the table and use thread rod with double nuts on it to lock either side of the block near the handle.
Dave
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8th April 2011, 12:34 AM #13Dave J Guest
Since your table is to short, having the tube raise the long piece off the table would allow room for another piece of tube to be bolted to the table out to the pivot point.
Dave
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8th April 2011, 12:45 AM #14.
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The ever resourceful Dave J !!
"I see there have been a few posts put up while I have been drawing.
Something similar to this would work and could be made up to be bolted together.
The bottom tube could be bolted to the table and use thread rod with double nuts on it to lock either side of the block near the handle."
Thank you Dave. The advantage of the screw feed is being close to the action. I'll slip up to the shed tomorrow to see if I can conjure something up from the bits and pieces I have.
Bob.
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8th April 2011, 01:07 AM #15Dave J Guest
If the extension for the pivot point can be set up on your table like below, it will save having to weld a T bar across and will give more support bolted across a couple of T slots.
Sorry for the rough pictures.
Dave
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