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    Default Milling vice rehab

    More years ago than I care to rememeber I picked up a 3 way tilting milling vice , it had been used in aplumbers workshop for a drill vice and had some pretty nasty things done to it.
    I never had a mill at the time and never thought I would ever get one , but I kept the vice , in my garden shed for many years .After I built a decent shed and decided to have a workshop where I could spend my time engaged in woodwork and limited metal work .
    Then I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a milling machine ,nothing fancy , but hey it was free.
    I decided that the vice that was buried under the junk and crap in the garden shed ,would be ok for my mill.
    Not having seen it for a long time I had forgotten about the butchery that the vice had suffered.
    I have been it using for a couple of years in its butchered state ,but was fast becoming sick and tired of having to muck about getting items levelled in the vice for machining.
    So this weekend I decided to do some thing about the butchery .
    I machined out the butchered throat and turned up a plug to fill a drill hole on the edge of the cut out where I am fitting the new throat insert.
    I didn't want to go too far back as the rails under the vice start to get a bit thin .

    I machined a lump of hot rolled flat bar to fit into the cut out and made it a tap in fit , I had to hand fit it so it was a nice fit.
    Then I marked and machined the dovetailed sides.
    I meant to make the sides a bit longer so they were proud of the sides and I was going to machine them off level with the originals .
    But I went a tad over so I adjusted them by machining a bit off the bottom of the insert which brought them down and out about .005 " short of matching up .I still have to fix the insert in and I could take a poofteenth of the bottom to bring the dovetails level.
    Im thinking of fixing it with csk socket caps ,I have a few 5mm ones .
    I'm going to put some devcon liquid steel under it to fill any slight voids in the bed. Still a couple of drill divots in there but nothing I can't live with .
    Once I get the insert secured with screws I'll take a finishing cut over the whole throat to level it all off.

    Kev.
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    Nicely done Kev. What make is the vise? It'll be a pleasure to use now.

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    Looking good! I should do the same thing to my vice, has a few holes from a past life, which have been filled with some kind of brown putty... And while I'm at it, I should see if I can fix the turn and a half of backlash in the handle which has been annoying me...

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    Nice reco job there Woodlee,........plumbers,..you can't trust them!!!

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    That came out great Kev, I would like a vise like that.
    Always good when a plan come together, in the last 2 pictures it's hard to tell it was repaired.
    Did you give any thought to fly cutting the whole way? It would bring everything into perfect alignment, and if any of the degree marks where slightly off they could be set to zero before fly cutting and it would fix them.

    Dave

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    Its a Japanese made vice "NEWS" is on the brass label Yamakokui (sp?) from memory ) Company Japan .The cast iron used is very high quality and it took the edge off a HSS end mill fairly quickly ,so I changed to a insert cutter .I reckon this vice could be around 40-45 years old the degree marks are perfect there are no defects or inclusions in the castings.
    As you can see I did some previous machining on it ,the first two pics with the damage are fairly old pics .
    I machined the top of the vice some time ago as it makes a good reference point and a flat surface to do some set up on and it got rid of the row of drill divots behind the moving jaw .I moved the brass label back to the rear of the block that carries the movable jaw.

    Once I get the insert fitted securely I will set the vice up and machine the whole bottom face so its nice and flat and a proper place to set parallels on .

    Kev.
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    I would have just spent some money and got a newbie...cos that job is out of my league

    Great refurbishment there Woodlee
    I'm gunna keep all the thrown out stuff/tools find I can find now..just for some practice later

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