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    Whilst i like Bob's idea, i looked at it with my 3 grinders (2 8" and a 6") and decided that it would take up too much space, especially with a multitool on one of the grinders.
    I have been thinking of a wall mount system, with the grinders on arms all on the same pivot point. Fold 2 up to use the bottom one, one up one down to use the middle and 2 down to use the top. By having the middle arm shorter they should nest ok.
    I know, this doesn't help you Michael. I do like Stuarts idea for a mobile unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbilsquasher View Post
    This is a 'Rota Store'

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    As previously mentioned, this idea could be used to house several grinders.... albeit a somewhat ambitious one
    Bunnings have these too. They are used to house all their carpets, lino, fake grass etc...

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    To simplify things a little more. Could you find a height that allowed you to set them up as a double decker? Failing that a double decker with height adjustment?(Though that would be pretty heavy)
    Would depend I guess on just what your grinders are. I doubt it would work with my GMF's(?) but if I had 3off 6" Elu's I think they would be fine.

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    p.s. arent rota stores made in Knox?(tohugh maybe I have my machines mixed up) The boss wasnt sure that that picture wasnt one of the ones at her work lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    I assume you mean vertical lifting - they still have to be carried from the shelf to the bench ?

    I have a vice on a post that it is able to be moved to a hinged holding post underneath the bench.

    While I do so from time to time I find it a bit of nuisance to move it so it stays on the bench 95% of the time
    Hi Bob, my set up is very similar to your clip. Yes, I mean vertical lifting which is how most back injuries occur. Carrying, I find is not a great problem, slide it on a trolley and deliver to where required. My vise is nearly all ways left on the corner, as I can rotate it 90 degrees which sometimes helps, the grinder lives almost permanently on a post by the drill press.
    I am very limited in space 6mX2.5m which also houses 250amp MIG welder, 180amp stick, drill press, Mini Mill, Mini lathe, 20t garage press, metal band saw, the drill press, grinder/linisher, oxy set, plus hand tools, grinders etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Whilst i like Bob's idea, i looked at it with my 3 grinders (2 8" and a 6") and decided that it would take up too much space, especially with a multitool on one of the grinders.
    I have been thinking of a wall mount system, with the grinders on arms all on the same pivot point. Fold 2 up to use the bottom one, one up one down to use the middle and 2 down to use the top. By having the middle arm shorter they should nest ok.
    I like this idea a lot because it uses very little space but as usual there are tradeoffs. The main thing for me would be that it uses up valuable wall space so it would be difficult to store even a few sheets of metal behind this arrangement. There are also, like storing the grinders on shelves etc, lifting/carrying requirements involved. I find that as soon as even a small amount of effort is needed to change an arrangement one avoids using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore View Post
    I am very limited in space 6mX2.5m which also houses 250amp MIG welder, 180amp stick, drill press, Mini Mill, Mini lathe, 20t garage press, metal band saw, the drill press, grinder/linisher, oxy set, plus hand tools, grinders etc.
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    I have a similar amount of space to Kryn - I need to be able to move it to get to other things, hence the quest for ideas.
    A 2 or 3 stack might do it (if I think carefully about it) I wonder if a chair height adjuster will lift 3 grinders...

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    Back to your original ideas, I personally would build number four in your sketch; the cabinet that allows you to chop and change grinders and stores the unused ones underneath. I have seen a similar arrangement in an American woodworking book where a tall wall cabinet was designed this way; allowing a chopsaw, grinder, thicknesser and disc sander to share the same wall/floor footprint. Each machine was mounted on a plywood baseboard which slid into grooves in the cabinet sides for storage.

    I would also have wheels mounted on the bottom of the cabinet; I never seem to have enough space for anything so just about every machine I own can roll around...

    A major reason for picking this design though is that it can be made in day using really simple and easily available hardware. I love Bobl's rotating solution but as I currently don't have a welder or a lathe or a plasma cutter it's a bit out of my reach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tiff View Post
    A major reason for picking this design though is that it can be made in day using really simple and easily available hardware. I love Bobl's rotating solution but as I currently don't have a welder or a lathe or a plasma cutter it's a bit out of my reach!
    No plasma cutter was used by me in making the stand.

    For all the woodies out there, I got the basis of my design from a turner who made a grinder stand with the turntable made out of thick square pieces of MDF ie no need to use steel or have the turntable table round. It was a benchtop model with 2 regular 6" grinders and a small Tormek mounted on it. Someone else on one of the woodies forum has also made similar wooden version but I can't remember what they had on theirs.

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    A suggestion Bob, for space saving.
    If you have room outside your shed where the rotating 'lazy susan' grinder stand is located - you could frame a simple recess into the wall similar to how your Dust Extraction Collector is built into its own external compartment. As long as its water proof, it doesn't have to go all the way to the ground...all it has to do is accommodate the two arms with grinders that aren't in use at the time and be wide enough for them all to pivot freely. If you set it back far enough, it could even be such that the ONLY space used inside the actual shed is the portion of one arm with the grinder on it in use at the time...so what 10 inches inside the shed - the rest in an enclosure outside the shed? It might gain you a couple of extra feet inside?

    I did this with my edge bander in my factory so that it could be mounted in a bench along the wall, and the large reel of edging tape was located in an enclosure thru the wall and outside of the actual factory foot print (on a back wall where it didnt obstruct thru traffic outside).

    Just a suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timless Timber View Post
    A suggestion Bob, for space saving.
    If you have room outside your shed where the rotating 'lazy susan' grinder stand is located - you could frame a simple recess into the wall similar to how your Dust Extraction Collector is built into its own external compartment. . . . .
    I agree that this is a good idea but is probably only worth doing if one is certain that that is the final resting place for the grinder stand which in my case is unlikely as I tend to reorganise stuff. The other issue is that this method uses up wall space which is a premium in most sheds even if it is just to store some sheet metal up against a wall.

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