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  1. #1
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    Default Used MT2 shank drill bits or new straight shank

    Guys,
    I need a 19/32 and 3/4 drill bit. EBay has a few used Sutton MT2 bits and also new Sutton straight shank versions.

    There is not a lot of difference in price.

    The straight shanked versions have shorter flutes than the used MT2 versions.

    My drill press has a MT2 fitting and so does my tailstock.

    For the most part (99%) these drills will be used in the lathe.

    Is there a difference in quality between the two variants?

    My large chuck isn't brilliant (doesn't grip the bits that well) so I'm thinking the forces involved may sway me to the used variant... But then again I don't know how they've been (miss-)treated...

    Which would you suggest?

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks
    J


    Thx
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    What are you drilling? If its 6mm ply then the straights will be fine but if it's steel they would struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    What are you drilling? If its 6mm ply then the straights will be fine but if it's steel they would struggle.
    Thanks Bob,
    Definitely not wood - I already have some of the "traditional" wood bits for that.

    Mostly I'll be in brass or ally, sometimes steel.

    I'll go for the MT2 shanks.

    Thanks.
    J

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    Quote Originally Posted by ventureoverland View Post
    Thanks Bob,
    Definitely not wood - I already have some of the "traditional" wood bits for that.

    Mostly I'll be in brass or ally, sometimes steel.

    I'll go for the MT2 shanks.

    Thanks.
    J
    I use Forstner bits to drill ally - lots of method as coolant/lube and quite high drill pressure is needed but they they make a nice clean hole, - pity fractional sized aren't available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ventureoverland View Post
    Guys,
    I need a 19/32 and 3/4 drill bit. EBay has a few used Sutton MT2 bits and also new Sutton straight shank versions.

    Is there a difference in quality between the two variants?
    You would expect that both being the same brand the quality of steel would be the same. I would personally go the MT2 route as I think they will hold better.
    Are you going imperial for any particular reason? I have some duplicate metrics if that is of any interest.

    Michael

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    Default Drill choice.

    You will need one drill for brass and another for steel unless you plan to re-grind each time. Best to trim the cutting edges back to a neutral or slightly negative rake for brass to prevent it from grabbing or behaving very badly. Makes for a smooth operation.
    Combustor.
    Old iron in the Outback, Kimberley WA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    I use Forstner bits to drill ally - lots of method as coolant/lube and quite high drill pressure is needed but they they make a nice clean hole, - pity fractional sized aren't available.
    I've never tried a Forstner bit- I'll give it a go. I use stepped bits for aluminium. They leave beautiful holes but are obviously only good for sheet stock.

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    Unless the used drills are obviously bent or are chewed up along the flanks than I'd be going for them. For the same reason that Michael as already stated. Theres always a risk that a used drill might have a slight bend in it that you cant see until you run it, but on one that size you would probably be ok.
    If its a good quality drill, then theres not a lot that can be done to wreck it without it being blindingly obvious in the pictures, except for a slight bend.

    bollie7

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    I've never tried a Forstner bit- I'll give it a go. I use stepped bits for aluminium. They leave beautiful holes but are obviously only good for sheet stock.
    That should be "metho", not "method", as the coolant

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