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Thread: Myford Bed Regrinding
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7th May 2015, 07:57 PM #31Cba
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You must be joking. You got to compare apples with apples. In Australia metalworking enthusiasts pay world leading premium prices for worn out machine tools. There is far more metalworking industry in the UK and other countries in Europe and the US - and hence the used machinery market is much larger, prices are lower and the condition of used machinery is generally cosiderably better. Prices for a used machine tool in a given comparable condition is probably half what it is here. And the really clapped out stuff goes much earlier to scrap metal, rather than being sold and restored over and over again.
You have it much better when it comes to find that bargain lathe or mill. We have it better when it comes to find a roof for that lathe, houses in Australia are generally larger and the majority lives in there own house. I remember well the size and noise constraints of owning a lathe if you live in a high rise apartment.
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7th May 2015, 08:17 PM #32GOLD MEMBER
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I was thinking along the lines of these pictures. Thinking more about it, while the DTI might be nice for a quick check along the way, I think it would be nice to start with some real(or close to real) numbers.
How wide is the slot between the flat ways?
My reasoning for measuring the slot instead of bed width is I assume the slot will have little wear at each end(that and I dont have a mic big enough to measure the bed width anyway.
Stuart
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7th May 2015, 09:53 PM #33
Sorry Stu, I'm still not sure how you are taking comparative readings. If your reference surface is the top of the way how do you move it along in reference to the perpendicular face??
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7th May 2015, 10:11 PM #34GOLD MEMBER
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It just sits on the top, it references off the face using the pins that stick out of the base. they are up in the first picture and down in the second.
Stuart
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7th May 2015, 10:36 PM #35
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16th May 2015, 01:16 PM #36GOLD MEMBER
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16th May 2015, 02:08 PM #37Pink 10EE owner
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Nasty cough you have there Stuart.... I hope you get better soon
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16th May 2015, 09:58 PM #38Senior Member
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MTA in Sydney
MTA (Machine Tool Automation, the updated name for Hardwick and Tatam) is one of the long established Sydney machine tool rebuilding firms that is still going. There is (was?) also Grout and Darlington but since the auction of slideway grinders etc at Smithfield last week (different company name but I think related to Grout & Darlington) I do not know if that business is continuing.
Back on topic, it happens that I just got a quote from John Tatam for regrinding the bed of my Chipmaster, which with a bed length of 1100mm is quite a bit bigger than a Myford. I am delivering the stripped down bed to him. Quote is less than $500, which I think is excellent value. Besides which you get a trip to the beach.
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Bill
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18th May 2015, 11:01 PM #40GOLD MEMBER
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Well that's a pity, my inside mics wont fit.
I'll give you a pm/call in the next couple of days and we'll get some measuring done.
Stuart
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18th May 2015, 11:22 PM #41
What about if we did the set up as you showed in your pics but had the Mic touching the opposite way edge? I'll be smithing Wed but otherwise free.
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19th May 2015, 03:27 PM #42GOLD MEMBER
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yeah we'll likely do that as well.
Its hit the fan around here. I'll try for Thursday but can't promise anything.
Stuart
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Ok so the idea is, to scrap the front and back of the bed to make the lathe usable, staying on the waste side of the line so if Dale should give up or decide at a later date to get it ground.....nothing other than time and blue is wasted.
So with that in mind the plan is to assume the right hand end of the bed is unworn and as it left the factory and that the wear on the slot is even front and back. That means there is 0.02mm wear at the head stock end, split that to the front and back. Gives you 44.390mm and 34.96mm. Scrape a small area on the right hand end to that depth. Use a straight edge or plate to join the two ends with a straight line.
Should be good to go (Yes, not perfect but at least it should work better than it does ATM, only removing metal that would have been removed by grinding anyway)
The thickness/flatness of the bed and the width of the tailstock slot wont be touched ATM(I didn't clock for minimum thickness, maybe I should have).
Nuts?
Have I missed some thing?
Stuart
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14th June 2015, 10:31 PM #45
I pulled the lathe down and with a bit of help from Stustoys & his bunnax? followed by my hand scraping we managed to remove both the taper and concavity from the front way. After assembly it was much improved but still a little tight right up towards the tailstock. A slight backing off of one of the saddle clamp screws and she seems quite serviceable for now.
So I will fully reassemble her and put it back into service as see how she fairs on a few non critical turning jobs and reassess from their if further scraping is required or it needs a proper regrind. I've made notes of the recommendations on that for future use. Thanks everyone for your input getting me this far.…..Live a Quiet Life & Work with your Hands
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