Thread: Show us your mill II

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this is my lill' fella - only 3.6t of green Russian

mark

That looks like a Stanko,nice mill to use.

Nice Mark, but how about a little bit of detail on the machine and why & how you got it?

Michael

sorry about the lack of details

I bought the mill (and a hercus 260) off an engineering shop that shut its doors (more of our Aussie capabilities gone - not good) some 5 months ago - kinda on a whim...
I have no background in machining or engineering or any trade but just love mucking around with projects, metal , timber, stone or whatever. I bought this machine realizing I had no skills, but I will learn.
When I bought the machine, the owner and I guesstimated the weight at 2 - 2.5 t... couldn't be any more than that .. surely...could it?
The model 6T82W(SH) ... according to the net weighs 3.6t... so close
So after a large hole in my shed wall, much sweat and a mobile crane..she came to her new home

Its in pretty good nick , built in the late 80's , power feeds, came with lots of end mills, tool bits , a rotary thingy , one vise that weighs about 160 kg(or feels like it) and a smaller vise that's broken but usable - I will get a better one. It also has a Fagor dro 30i-M, and best of all, a great manual, in Russian and English- all in all a lot of fun, I really enjoy using it and finding out about it. Its kind of daunting and exciting at the same time... is that a little weird?

Originally Posted by markaus

Its kind of daunting and exciting at the same time... is that a little weird?

This is perfectly healthy. Do not adjust your set.

Nice mill.

Mark
Quite normal, no therapy appointments needed.
regards
Bruce

Hi Mark,

Nice mill. I noticed you said Hercus 260, we'll need photo's of that one too please.

Ben.

Hi Michael G.

So which is it mate? I mean, like, the very day I organise for delivery this thread pops up. I'm out on small acreage in the middle of nowhere, with no properties getting a look at ground level activity. Here's me thinking I have peace and quiet 'n all I don't even have the thing on my property and here you are asking about it? Some one had to have tipped you off, right!

OK so you've asked for it, here it is, Friday's arrival.

This is a Hardinge UM Mill with Bridgeport head. As best I can work out it was made around 1953. It is somewhat like a small Deckel in that the table can swivel up to 45 degrees clockwise and counter clockwise. It has a horizontal spindle with a Hardinge 5C nose. The vertical head was made by Bridgeport for Hardinge and is known as a model H head. It is rather limited as it takes a very very rare 2VB collet. They are available from Hardinge in Imperial sizes only up to 1/2", via Amazon and others. About $75 per collet.

The machine is in pretty good condition for it's age. The paint is mostly shot, a cosmetic issue really. There is a little wear in the ways as they get a little tighter at the far end of their travel, travels are X- 14" (11" with power feed), Y- 6" and Z- 12"
The only two issues that concern me at the moment are the spindle lock is inoperable and the X axis handwheel has taken a hit at some stage and the shaft is bent just in front of the handle as a consquence. The later issue I can live with for awhile.

There is a little surface rust on the table that probably fix by dumping the table in a vat of Evapo rust. The table surface itself is almost unblemished other than the rust. In the last photo you can see rim of the handwheel, opposite the handle is thicker, this provides counterweighting for the handles. A nice touch.

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I am probably going to run it mostly as a horizontal mill, which explains my recent interest in all things 5C and especially a Hardinge HLV or TFB lathe. The horizontal arbor is a 1" diameter job. So cutters for that will also run in the Deckel FP2LB horizontal arbor. Handy that! Also it is still small enough that some of the "larger" tooling from my Sherline will be useable on it.

I bought the Hardinge much earlier in the year, a couple of months before the FP2LB, in fact. Mostly, because I had given up hope of finding a suitable Deckel . The vendor kindly stored it for me until the shed had a roof on it.

One of the first jobs I have for it is to mill some longer T-nuts for the Deckel, as Deckels seem to have somewhat fragile T-slots See below...

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As for the FP2LB, I have not done much more with it. I need a bit of bench space before I strip it any further. I have had the owner of the local machine shop in to look at the play in the main shaft. He said he has a boring machine big enough to put the entire mill on and rebore the casting if need be.

So Michael G, I hope this meets with your approval, but, you'll have to excuse me now, as I have to go check my telephone for bugs.


Cheers

The Beryl Bloke

P.S. One night, not long ago, I heard the plaintive cry of the Deckel parts shown above, they were deeply upset at the prospect of having to go through another miserably cold German winter. What could a decent man do except offer them somewhere more comfortable to live??? And after all, what could be more comfortable than tropical Queensland?? They even said they would bring along an original Deckel tooling cabinet, who was also feeling the inclement weather. I'll have to warn them about the phone.

This little mill turned up at work the other day. It is an Edgwick No1 Simplimil.
These were made for Alfred Herbert and something I have never seen before is the change gears to change the spindle speeds.
A nice little unit that would look great in my shed at home

Phil
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This has already been posted in the Hercus area but:

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OLM279 after some use.

Ben.

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

This little mill turned up at work the other day. It is an Edgwick No1 Simplimil.
These were made for Alfred Herbert and something I have never seen before is the change gears to change the spindle speeds.
A nice little unit that would look great in my shed at home

Phil
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that machine is loaded with charm.
id say as well that machine is totally unsuited
to your work you would be doing them a favor
by taking it home.

Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer

. It is an Edgwick No1 Simplimil.

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Is that a tiny mill with a 2Hp motor, or a small mill with a 10Hp motor?
Either way it's an absolute ripper with that British bulldog look - nothing undernourished or skimpy about it!
Cheers,
Bill

Here are my modifications todate on my Hare&Forbs BM40V Mill.
I wanted to fit a VSD to the Mill and have all of the controls and Axis Screen in one box so I used two electrical enclosures to do this and fabricated a new swing arm. I also wanted to have a speed sensor on the quill so machined up a plate that I fitted in the top of the head just under the bearing casting, I had 8mm to play with, you can see the speed readout just under the Axis Screen.
I fitted a scale to the quill as well. I also fitted the two extra geared motors to Y & Z axis's and fitted better slides for the axis end stops.
I fitted a LED light and moved the coolant nozzle and arranged the coolant return to fit better. I wanted the leads to be as neat as possible and out of the way.
I am now fabricating some guards for the chips and coolant spray.
I attach some pictures for your interest.

Regards,
Keith_W