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6th May 2015, 11:35 AM #1.
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Another Painting Query
This time I'm seeking suggestions for a suitable filler for localised filling of chipped paintwork on the whizzo vice Michael G sent me. I don't want to strip the vice back to bare metal and then fill and prime before painting because my experience with doing just that has been disappointing.
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The green bracket pictured is a home made "replica" of the bracket Hercus supplied with their little dividing head. It is cast iron but machined from a block and therefore not offering the same keying for paint or filler as a casting would provide. I filled any flaws with Septone body filler and then sprayed the thing with Septone spray putty and primer before overcoating with Spies Hecker spraying enamel.
In my mind the finish is not overly durable and is prone to chipping. The spray putty could be the main contributor to its poor performance. The finish might look OK when compared to the vice but the dividing head certainly hasn't earned a living spending most of its life in a cupboard.
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With the vice, it was my intention to repair the damage to the chipped paint then lightly sand the existing intact paint before applying White Knight primer followed by White Knight Rust Guard epoxy enamel in spray form.
Most of the accessories for the mill and the mill itself are beautifully finished. A direct application of paint to the bare vice castings would be by far the easiest option but the vice deserves more. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Bob.
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6th May 2015, 02:10 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Fillers
I won't use fillers on any machinery I paint, regardless of type or brand they all chip and once chipped look terrible and of course that makes it more time consuming to repair. Last time I re painted machinery I stripped it back to bare metal and used files, belt sanders and elbow grease to grind back any high spots. It did take a while but the effort was worth it as touching up only took a few minutes. The unfortunate part is no matter how much you file and grind back it will still not be a uniform surface but I personally prefer having an easily touched up surface than a perfectly uniform one. I notice your machinery all looks like laboratory equipment, I envy that, wish mine looked that good!
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6th May 2015, 02:11 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Bob, I'd be inclined to wash with a good grease oil remover, then a thin layer of bog over it, then sand it back till you get an acceptable finish. A thin coat of spray putty to fill in any minor imperfections, a coat of primer and then in your favourite finish.
Unfortunately no matter how careful you are with equipment like this, it will always get knocked about a bit, unless you keep it in a cupboard for show.
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6th May 2015, 09:17 PM #4Senior Member
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Hi Bob,
Cannot give you any great advice re painting but have recently come across the same vice. Was at an auction in Sydney of high end metrology recently when I was admiring an optical dividing head and bench when I noticed a vice sitting on it which obviously did not belong. The vice was cute and in good condition and I was sure I had seen something similar before. To cut a long story short it was the same vice as yours and although I was more interested in the dividing head bench I was not upset to buy the vice as well. At the moment it is on a pallet shrink wrapped for protection but will bring it out soon for a clean up. Amazing how you can go years without seeing something then a number turn up at the same time.
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mark
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6th May 2015, 11:22 PM #5Senior Member
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I have yet to try the interesting possibility posted by Ropetangler -
https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...41#post1580641
- about adding cement to epoxy paint to make a filler. It should result in a filler colour related to the topcoat. Subsequently chipped parts should blend better than usual.
Bill
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7th May 2015, 01:24 AM #6.
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Hello Mark,
And it will probably be another twenty years before we see another No.36! I look forward to a photo or three of your latest acquisition(s).
When the shrink wrap comes off for a play you will find that a hook spanner is required for the notched lock ring. I searched high and low on eBay, eBay uk, eBay de and found some expensive spanners. I found some inexpensive shock absorber spanners in China that might have done the job and then I found this in our own back yard - http://www.ebay.com/itm/191306338499...499%26_rdc%3D1 The textured powdercoat comes off with a wire wheel leaving a tool that looks the part and fits.
I am keen to hear more about the optical dividing head. I know Zeiss and Leitz made them and funnily enough, while searching yesterday, albeit with extreme optimism, for information regarding the makers of the 13's optical micrometers, Optique et Precision de Levallois, OPL, I found a copy of the "Instructions for the use of the OPL Optical Divider" translated from the French for NASA in 1963. Interesting stuff, some of which might relate to yours.
Bob.
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21st May 2015, 03:05 PM #7Senior Member
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Hi Bob,
Couple of quick pics for you. The build quality of these vices are amazing.
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And to continue here are some pictures of a Jones and Shipman sine vice. Extremely heavy and beautiful.
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And to finish a tilting Waldown drill vice.
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Hope you enjoy
Mark
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Nice haul Mark. The J and S looks superb, similar beautiful finish to the 36. The inclinable Waldown is something I've only ever seen catalogue images of. Any Waldown drills in your collection?
Can you possibly do me a favour? The remaing jaw I have on the vice has had most of the top bevel cut off, I think it is about 30 degrees judging from the thin strip of bevel that remains. The jaws should be 37.5mm high. Any chance of confirmation of the height and angle? Please.
Bob.
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Mark, are you starting a Vise collection/museum?
Kryn
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Not on purpose but I definitely have a weakness for quality machine tools. In recent years a number of high quality engineering businesses have sold up (think Boeing/Qantas/Holden etc) and they often spared no expense in their toolrooms. Business only seems interested in late model CNC machinery and so prices just seem rock bottom at the moment. Not sure how long this situation will go on but I think it is still on the way down. So now is the time to pick these things up.
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