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Thread: Pakerizing metal finish
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6th April 2007, 04:24 PM #1
Pakerizing metal finish
Having promised to do a photo set on the surface treatment, i finally had time to do it.
After finally getting all my ducks in a row ,I was able to set up my kit and treated a chisel and set of dividers.
To refresh your memories it was completed using
Manganese Dioxide powder,
Phosphoric Acid
Plain steel wool
Distilled water
The photos in order are
Rusty chisel
Chisel cleaned up
Chisel and dividers after phospating
The chisel turned out much better than the dividers cos some dickhead forgot to clean them up with thinners before they went into the pot.
The shiny appearance is just the WD 40 type compound spray I applied while the pieceS were warm from the pot.
have a great Easter folks
Grahame
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6th April 2007, 09:03 PM #2
Gday Grahame, bought a pair of dividers that look exactly like yours at a recent tool sale. Heavy & solid, they're great.
That Parkerising process looks interesting.
Cheers...................Sean
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7th April 2007, 10:09 AM #3.
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9th April 2007, 10:33 AM #4
G day BobL
I had made a mention of the process back a while in a thread about blueing.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...040#post428040
There are more links to overseas sites that deal in the phospating ( parkerising ) of Milatary firearms + accessories.
Hope it helps
Grahame
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Not trying to steal your thunder or hijack your thread grahame, but if anyone wants to know how to do other types of metal treatments, yell out. We do electroplating at work and have a full time electroplater employed for tin plating, nickel plating, parkerising, anodising, cadmium plating ect of all metals and there done to aircraft standards, I do my own electroplating of parts at work. So if I cant answer it for you I can ask Paul at work
Steve
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9th April 2007, 11:14 AM #6
As mentioned in another thread, Phosphoric Acid is now hard to get.
Where do you get yours?
I use Wattyl Metal-Prep but it seems that it is no longer available, I may be worng but I can't find it stocked anywhere any longer.Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
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9th April 2007, 12:25 PM #7
Phosphoric acid
hey fellas
Don't stress!
Most car shops carry rust killing preparations that have it as the major ingredient.
I grab whatever is available that I can read from the label ( and that getting harder every day) that carries the highest percentage of Phosphoric acid.
I have loaded a couple of pics of the type of stuff.
I have not stuck to the formula quantities too well either.You know how it is,a splash of phos (yep!, it looks about right) and a handful of steel wool.
A bit of caution with the maganese dioxide. I make sure the dust will blow away from me.Its a suspected carcinogenic, not a bloody radioactive lump of uranium.
I got my MD from the pottery shop, but if things are tight bust up a few flat torch batteries, the black stuff is, you guessed it, manganese dioxide.
Make sure that you clean up with acetone or thinners before it goes in the pot or you may get the scungy look like my dividers.Even skin oils and fats can affect the finish, apparently.
cheers
Grahame
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