Thread: Please check my tooling order

Looks fine to me, the only thing I would suggest is staying away from carbide endmills until you are used to your machine, get some roughing endmills instead, and you will need inserts for your face mill. The apkt style fave mills also need a bit of power and rigidity to drive them properly, you may be better off with a cutter with a 45deg approach. I'll find one to show you what I mean.

Ew

Looks fine to me. Just double check that your drawbar thread is M16.

You might want to get an indexable boring bar at some point in the future, those brazed carbide ones that come in the sets, seem to chip really easily. Although they can be re-sharpened easily enough.

Ray

I would add a set of slot drills.

2 FLUTE HSS M2AL SLOT DRILL MILLING CUTTERS (7 PCS) - METRIC #G98

You will need these if you want to mill pockets or blind keyways.
You could probably get away with ordering just a 5mm and a 12mm but if you might as well get the set up front.

If your budget is tight I'd ditch the boring head unless you think you will have a use for it right away.
And like Ueee said you can probably ditch the carbide end-mills unless you really think you will need them.
Cheers,
Greg.

Originally Posted by oohsam

A77 ER32 MT4 COLLET CHUCK #A77	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-COLLET/Detail
A07 ER32 COLLET SET (19 PCS) #A07	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...LET-SET/Detail
L04 75MM BORING HEAD WITH MT4 M16 SHANK & 12 PCS 18MM BORING BARS #L04	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-644/75MM-BORING-HEAD-MT4/Detail
H02 7 PCS. CARBIDE ENDMILL - 4 FLUTE - TiAlN COATED #H02	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...rograin/Detail
C95 4 FLUTE HSS AL ENDMILL MILLING CUTTERS (7 PCS) #C95	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-HSS-AL/Detail
H99 RIGHT ANGLE SHOULDER FACE MILL - BAP #H99 (50mm)	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...ER-FACE/Detail
L81 22MM MT4 FACE MILL ARBOR -M16 #L81	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...SUBISHI/Detail

I have very little to add, regarding your tool selections, but that's the best presented table I've ever seen on a forum. Click-able links and every thing. Well done.

Regards Phil.

Sweet thanks for the replies guys.
I've updated the list.

CTC don't sell a 45 Degree facemill so I'll source on ebay or something like that.
They also don't have a MT4 threaded arbor and key-less chuck so I'll source that elsewhere too.
I'd prefer to get most of what I need in one order to maximise my shipping, so happy to add stuff if need be.
Hopefully any new Milling guy sin future will stumble on this list and find it somewhat useful.

ER32 MT4 COLLET CHUCK #A77	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-COLLET/Detail
ER32 COLLET SET (19 PCS) #A07	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...LET-SET/Detail
75MM BORING HEAD WITH MT4 M16 SHANK & 12 PCS 18MM BORING BARS #L04	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...EAD-MT4/Detail
4 FLUTE HSS AL ENDMILL MILLING CUTTERS (7 PCS) #C95	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-HSS-AL/Detail
22MM MT4 FACE MILL ARBOR -M16 #L81	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...SUBISHI/Detail
2 FLUTE HSS M2AL SLOT DRILL MILLING CUTTERS (7 PCS) - METRIC #G98	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...SS-M2AL/Detail
4 FLUTE HSS AL ROUGHING ENDMILL CUTTERS (6 PCS) - METRIC #G99	http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-HSS-AL/Detail

While you are waiting patiently for that shipment of tools to arrive... here is some basic introduction to milling operations.. http://ttv.mit.edu/videos/127-machine-shop-4

Ray

I have not had any experience with the dowel type face mills ctc sells, I imagine they would be easier on the machine than the 90deg type. Even my hm50 run out of rigidity at a 2mm doc with a 2" apkt cutter. Of course the vernier barely notices a 2mm doc.....

Ew

Originally Posted by RayG

While you are waiting patiently for that shipment of tools to arrive... here is some basic introduction to milling operations.. http://ttv.mit.edu/videos/127-machine-shop-4

Ray

Thanks ray, I'll watch it when I get home !

Originally Posted by Ueee

I have not had any experience with the dowel type face mills ctc sells, I imagine they would be easier on the machine than the 90deg type. Even my hm50 run out of rigidity at a 2mm doc with a 2" apkt cutter. Of course the vernier barely notices a 2mm doc.....

Ew

Ew,
Is there a facemill you can recommend for me, being my first face mill. I've done a quick search and am struggling to source a 45 degree facemill that would suit. - or anyone else can chime in also.

A fly cutter is often cheaper.

CTC may be able to match a drill chuck with an arbor. They matched a imperial drawbar threaded arbor with metric boring head for me. Send them an email.

Originally Posted by Machtool

Click-able links and every thing. Well done.

Indeed. I cant remember every lathe/wigget on the market and get grumpy when I have to chase them up to try and answer someones question. Hey I'm a grumpy old man lol



I'd be thinking hard about one of these spanners
http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-%23A47/Detail

Especially if you are going to be holding endmills in your ER32(which of course you are)

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

I'd be thinking hard about one of these spanners
http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-...-%23A47/Detail

Especially if you are going to be holding endmills in your ER32(which of course you are)

Stuart

I thought of that earlier today and then promptly forgot....

This is the 45deg type face mill. http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/M515 I'm sure there will be a cheap one somewhere.....

I'll check the H.P requirements for the dowel type VS APKT, the dowels would leave a pretty good finish i reckon. Has no one got one?

Ew

According to Iscars calculator the round inserts will actually use more power then an APKT, not what i expected. However the force on an APKT is all radial, on a dowel or 45 deg cutter it is shared radially and axially.

Ew

I assume you do have a dial test indicator (lever type) and holder?

[QUOTE=oohsam;1752247]Hi guys,
Based on all the input I've received I am buying my first set of tools for my milling machine, and I have constructed this list for your review.

Looking for comments on anything that I don't need, should get instead of, or additional items to add. This order is about $600 worth. [QUOTE]

If money is no problem Sam, Just ask Ewan, Stuart, Ray and BT what they have and then just get the same.
Rob.