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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    "Sapphire" is a trade name only I believe, because of the colour. The composition is some big commercial secret. The only puclicly known facts are that it is applied under vacuum, and it's a really pretty blue. Oh, yeah, and hard as.

    But thanks for the extra yards there Bob - appreciated.
    Applied under vacuum means it will be a vapour deposition process
    My guess is that the material is aluminium oxide since sapphire is the gemstone name for corundum or Aluminium Oxide which can readily applied to metal surfaces by vapor deposition.
    Alox is hard stuff which is why it is used in abrasives but diamond will readily deal with it - this is why diamond is used as a dresser for Alox grinding wheels.

    If you send me a dud file I will do any manner of testing on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by QC Inspector View Post
    Have you thought of marking the handles of each file and rasp? They can be marked with the metal stamps. If your tools don't have handles (kind of dangerous ) you could paint the tangs to differentiate them. Could paint the handles too for that mater.

    Pete
    Yes a stamp would certainly work on the handles QC, but there's not much danger of me painting these:





    Interestingly, one of the top French guys doesn't like to use them with handles because he likes to get the vibrational feeback from the wood as he is rasping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    If you send me a dud file I will do any manner of testing on it
    Are you holding your breath? I wouldn't.

    I do in fact have a dud that was coated. We got a few files coated, just for the hell of it, to see what gives. Total waste, and rendered brand new files completely and utterly useless! They just skate over the top of the metal. So what I'll do as a test (when the Dremel is fixed, and crowie has given me a clue on that) is to have a go at the dud Milled File shoulder (this is the file that I referred to earlier about wearing out 2.5 files trying to sharpen it - it's still not much cop as a float because of the coating). None of us really understand why the coating has very little dulling effect on a point (essentially of no dimensions), but on a one dimensional edge it completely dulls it, or prevents it from cutting. But that's the reality, and the coating ain't for files.


    You may recall that you and I had some private discussion about my crackpot theory on the coating keeping the rasp point in tact until the coating wears away on the point exposing a still brand new sharp point (my theory being that the rasps may actually wear in). Of course you debunked this , saying that it would be more likely that when the coating molecules came away then it would probably also be with particles of the steel tooth as well. Tell you what though, it sounded good to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Are you holding your breath? I wouldn't.
    OK I'll start breathing.

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