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Thread: Oil Equivalent to Velvus Three
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8th March 2012, 07:29 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Oil Equivalent to Velvus Three
Looking for advice, on the correct oil to use in my Churchill Surface Grinder main spindle bearings.
The grinder is about 70 yrs old, & the recommendation on the original plate on the machine Is to use Velvus Three Oil.
Anyone know what the equivalent to this oil would be?
regards
Bruce
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8th March 2012, 07:59 PM #2
Bruce,
I don't know if you googled it but i came up with this link.
Junk Yard Find - Practical Machinist - Largest Manufacturing Technology Forum on the Web Try post #13. Now there's some nice big old grinders....
Ewan
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8th March 2012, 09:36 PM #4Senior Member
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G'day Bruce,
I have a vague recollection that Velvus was an Atlantic Oil Co company product.
They were bought out by Esso then Mobil so perhaps Mobil Vactra oils might be an equivalent.
I did a quick lookup for Vactra 3 and came up with this link.
Mobil Vactra Oil Numbered Series
Might help.
Cheers,
Greg.
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9th March 2012, 02:41 AM #5
In that PM thread the description of Velus 3 is that it was " almost like water" i bought some Shell light spindle oil last year...Molina 10, and it is very watery. It was supposed to be a direct repalcement for a light Velocite spindle oil.
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9th March 2012, 06:59 AM #6Philomath in training
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Phone up your favourite oil company (Shell, Mobil, Fuchs - who ever) and ask their technical people. They usually have a list of all the superseded oils and (their) modern equivalents.
Michael
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Spindle Oil
Thanks for that Greg.
I just checked up with an oil specialist bloke I know who is in the oil business, supplies all types of oils.
Discussed the question & application with him, & yes..... as you suggested.....
The recommendation was Shell Morlina 10
A spindle oil which he believes is the closest equiv to Velvus Three.
It was also suggested for use in lathe spindle lubrication.
A 5 litre container would be around $50
So looks like I will go with that.
regards
Bruce
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9th March 2012, 12:59 PM #8Pink 10EE owner
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Does it give another description?
Usually something in Saybolt seconds @ x degrees F..Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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Oils
I dont have any additional information on the tech aspects of the oil.
The only thing I have to go by is the original bronze nameplate on the machine which nominates "Velvus Three Oil from the British Petroleum & Turpentine Corp."
I think it may have the original oil in the spindle reservoir, which would be 60 to 70 yrs old.
The machine has been operating well for me for about 20yrs, so I do not want to mess it up.The oil level in the sight glass seemed to be a little low, thats the reason for the enquiry.
Thanks for your interest.
Bruce
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9th March 2012, 02:01 PM #10Pink 10EE owner
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Failing everything else... email the company and ask them Precision Grinding in Manchester: Surface Grinding in Manchester
Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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If you haven't fixed yourself up, there's a 20 litre drum of Morlina surplus to requirements about 25km away if the Hawkesbury behaves!
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Thanks for the link
RC
I have been in contact a number of times with the Churchill people in Manchester England, & they have been most helpful.
Thanks so much for putting me onto the English Co. I have never been able to get much info before on the grinder but now picking up a wealth of information.
regards
Bruce
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maybe
i all ways thought that a good quality engine oil was the way to go in a lathe headstock
aaron
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Turning useful pieces of steel into scrap metal.
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good point. Ill have to think about that.
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