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    Default Milling machine way bellows

    Hi,
    Does anyone know of a supplier for milling machine way bellows? I want to replace the buggered set that covers the z axis ways on my SHW mill. Could make something functional but something similar to the originals would look much better.
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    Default machine way bellows

    Quote Originally Posted by markgray View Post
    Hi,
    Does anyone know of a supplier for milling machine way bellows? I want to replace the buggered set that covers the z axis ways on my SHW mill. Could make something functional but something similar to the originals would look much better.
    Thanks
    Mark
    i replaced mine with sheet rubber , but this didn't last long at all , as the swarf cuts it like a knife given 1 side of the swarf is razor sharp, i then replaced them with a couple pieces of 3mm leather purchased from a saddle maker , they have lasted approx 5 yearsP1020394.JPG

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    Hello Mark,

    Here is a link to a previous discussion about bellows - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/le...2/#post1484273

    I had a look for a SHW mill on the net. Bugger me!

    SHW%20UF-2.jpg

    BT

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    You could try one of the european machinery dealers for leads on SHW genuine parts or get custom ones from Gortite in the US. There are some tutorials on home made bellows on the net.

    If yours is a smaller SHW you might find that more popular mills like Deckel or Maho will fit. Franz Singer in Germany has a very extensive range of Deckel bellows.

    Greg
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    Why not use some of the flat belt (walking surface) of an old Treadmill.
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    Mark,
    If you go the unformed cover route, I have had very good service from a product used to make the inflatable boats from, called Hypalon. Its resistant to most things used around the mill and was purchased from a supplier in Sydney, unfortunately have forgotten the name, but google brings up a list. While not cheap its the best I've found to date. Alan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-47 View Post
    Mark,
    If you go the unformed cover route, I have had very good service from a product used to make the inflatable boats from, called Hypalon. Its resistant to most things used around the mill and was purchased from a supplier in Sydney, unfortunately have forgotten the name, but google brings up a list. While not cheap its the best I've found to date. Alan.
    Hey Alan,

    Here you go. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/so...7/#post1272139

    BT

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    Bob,
    Was still awaiting my first coffee of the day when I posted, all is clearer now . Enjoy.

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    Hypalon is also sold by Hardies products (or used to) as I used it in our bathroom 10-15 years ago. It came in 100mm or 150mm widths (can't remember now) and is sold in rolls. I had to use a special 2 part glue to make all the corners water proof after putting down the compressed sheet and Villaboard.

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    Thanks everyone for your replies.
    Will chase up some of your ideas.
    I am going to visit my son in Austria at Xmas so maybe able to find something while Im there?

    Bob, my mill is very similar to your picture only the smaller UF1 model.
    Beautiful machine. Deckel quality with vertical and horizontal ISO40 spindles and permanently mounted slotting head.
    Lucky enough to have universal table with power and rapid feeds on all axis and DRO on all axis.
    Pretty advanced for 1968.
    Currently undergoing some refurbishment but unfortunately I dont have a digital camera at home at the moment but maybe next week or so

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    Default Machine Bellows

    Try Bellowflex in Sydney 9669 1650 they are in Alexandria. They manufacture bellows

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgray View Post
    Thanks everyone for your replies.
    Will chase up some of your ideas.
    I am going to visit my son in Austria at Xmas so maybe able to find something while Im there?

    Bob, my mill is very similar to your picture only the smaller UF1 model.
    Beautiful machine. Deckel quality with vertical and horizontal ISO40 spindles and permanently mounted slotting head.
    Lucky enough to have universal table with power and rapid feeds on all axis and DRO on all axis.
    Pretty advanced for 1968.
    Currently undergoing some refurbishment but unfortunately I dont have a digital camera at home at the moment but maybe next week or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgray View Post
    Thanks everyone for your replies.
    Will chase up some of your ideas.
    I am going to visit my son in Austria at Xmas so maybe able to find something while Im there?

    Bob, my mill is very similar to your picture only the smaller UF1 model.
    Beautiful machine. Deckel quality with vertical and horizontal ISO40 spindles and permanently mounted slotting head.
    Lucky enough to have universal table with power and rapid feeds on all axis and DRO on all axis.
    Pretty advanced for 1968.
    Currently undergoing some refurbishment but unfortunately I dont have a digital camera at home at the moment but maybe next week or so

    I am looking forward to those photos Mark.

    When I looked for SHW, I found a few UF1s on German Ebay. Impressive looking machines. A search for werkzeugfräsmaschine and universalfräsmaschine reveals some wondrous mills.

    It would be interesting to hear how you acquired your SHW and for that matter, the SIP you spoke of at the fest.

    BT

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    Thanks Garry will give them a call

    Bob I have been meaning to do a thread on some of my machines for some time but never seem to have the spare time. In the middle of harvest at the moment so will try to arrange something in next couple weeks. The SIP is an old 2C I think. One of the oldest and smallest of the SIP Jig borers. A beautiful machine. Also have a Hulse planer which warrants a thread in its own right.
    I have got a lot out of the reading the forum and have really enjoyed meeting some of the members so I am keen to contribute something myself. I strongly believe in the old you get out what you put in line. Just need to get the camera situation under control first.
    So hopefully can have some interesting discussions in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgray View Post
    Thanks Garry will give them a call

    Bob I have been meaning to do a thread on some of my machines for some time but never seem to have the spare time. In the middle of harvest at the moment so will try to arrange something in next couple weeks. The SIP is an old 2C I think. One of the oldest and smallest of the SIP Jig borers. A beautiful machine. Also have a Hulse planer which warrants a thread in its own right.
    I have got a lot out of the reading the forum and have really enjoyed meeting some of the members so I am keen to contribute something myself. I strongly believe in the old you get out what you put in line. Just need to get the camera situation under control first.
    So hopefully can have some interesting discussions in the near future
    Mark,

    I have seen two SIP jig borers in real life. Perfection painted Mausgrau.

    The Hulse is bound to generate great interest. Anything like this beauty?

    Bob.

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    Hi Bob,
    in general it looks the same but without the swiveling cross slide. The bed is 9ft long and its only job in recent times has been to plane a 6 ft macson lathe bed. It has been moved in the last few months so is currently not bolted down and therefore not going but is creeping towards the top of the must do list. Photos of course will be forth coming

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