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1st June 2014, 03:06 PM #16.
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Well, compared to the other lathes in your possession I imagine the Schaublin 102 could be considered dainty but not all 102s were lightweight Mark. Here's a 102VM
( I'd be happy enough with a wispy 70 )
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1st June 2014, 04:43 PM #17Pink 10EE owner
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Once they are second hand all depends on condition... Mine is sweet to use, but it would not surprise me if Mark's CVA will be as good as my 10EE, it was certainly cheaper... The DC drive system in the 10EE is far superior to the CVA drive system when both are working properly...
When new a mid 1970's 30" 10EE with inch/metric threading and ELSR wins hands down... As they were the best 10EE's ever made but rare as hens teeth...Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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1st June 2014, 05:07 PM #18
Talking about these high end machines, does anyone have a Hardinge HLV for comparison?
I got a demo of Ewan's Holbrook the other day, and that thing is smooth as.. running at 2000 rpm, no vibration and just quiet and smooth. Very impressed.
Ray
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1st June 2014, 05:45 PM #19Philomath in training
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1st June 2014, 05:57 PM #20Senior Member
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[QUOTE=Anorak Bob;1779131]Well, compared to the other lathes in your possession I imagine the Schaublin 102 could be considered dainty but not all 102s were lightweight Mark. Here's a 102VM
( I'd be happy enough with a wispy 70 )
You are right Bob. I am referring to the usual plain 102's. Did not relies they did a VM model. Will have to look up the specs of that model and compare to 120VM. Looks a nice machine. That picture really makes me want to paint mine.
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1st June 2014, 08:47 PM #21.
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[QUOTE=markgray;1779155]Then this picture will probably have you prising the lid off the can of Wash and Wear.
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1st June 2014, 09:29 PM #22Pink 10EE owner
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Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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15th December 2014, 03:45 PM #23Senior Member
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Finally found the charging lead for my camera so while taking some pics have included some of the schaublin and CVA lathes. The CVA has had all the oils changed/levelled and cleaned. Runs like a charm. Have a FIMS number 3 QCTP to put on it as well as the taper turning attachment. Have not done anything with Schaublin yet but have been looking for a Tripan QCTP to fit on it (anyone have a spare ????)
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15th December 2014, 03:55 PM #24.
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Nice Mark,
Appearance wise, I reckon the CVA has it over the Schaublin. I've alway thought the Swiss headstock was a weird looking thing though I imagine it works better than it looks. I look forward to hearing about the performance of both machines.
Bob.
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16th December 2014, 09:43 PM #25Senior Member
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In there own way both are beautiful machines. The CVA oozes power and rigidity and everything about it is solid. The Schaublin is more delicate but with those silkly smooth controls you just know it was built for precision. I also look forward to comparing their performance.
Mark
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5th June 2015, 12:09 PM #26Novice
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Schaublin 120VM lathe
Good day there Mark - interesting to read your correspondence on your Schaublin 120VM lathe purchase - I am currently negotiating for the loan of the same machine from a friend - he has about 10 metal working lathes and this one was acquired from my old aviation company at Perth Airport - I think that it came across from the plant over in the East at Lidcombe when the Western Australian division kicked off here around circa 1966 - it was in the Electrician's shop for nearly all that time - I don't think most people knew how to operate it properly - so not much use over the 45 years from what I gather - my friend bought it about 4 to 5 years ago and it has just sat in his packed workshop ever since awaiting "attention" as it were - I am suggesting that I borrow the m/c for a 12 month period from him and give it a birthday etc., plus do a couple of other engineering jobs for him as recompense. I am a recently retired Mech Engineer so it would be an interesting little project for me in my early retirement phase etc., Hence just wondering what Tech Info you may have possibly assembled on the lathe and if you might pass some on to me - there was mention of a German Handbook/Manual for the lathe in the thread in PDF format so I would be very interested is getting hold of that for a start. I have a very good Swiss friend of a technical bent that could do the translation of same if an English version is not around the traps. Also if it is not too much of a rude question for you what is the likely market value of a machine of this nature in reasonable "original" condition - I might end up making my friend a fair offer for it. We are looking to down size sometime in the future so the prospect of relinquishing my 12m x 12m workshop with 3 phase power is a distinct possibly a couple of years away from now hence a medium term loan arrrangement would suit me. Looking forward to hearing from you when you have 5 to spare - thanking you and kind regards to you Sheoak17 - my email address is [email protected]
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5th June 2015, 05:55 PM #28Senior Member
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5th June 2015, 06:07 PM #29
Local place I've been to a few time, dunno what It's called and always takes me an hour to find driving around the area. I found it by accident when a friend took me to see someones factory. Don't know the model either but it has a square boxy headstock and has been there for at least 6mths. If Ray was really interested I would make an effort to track the place down again.
The Hardinge isn't mine either but I'd like it.…..Live a Quiet Life & Work with your Hands
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5th June 2015, 06:16 PM #30Senior Member
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Hi Sheoak17,
Welcome to the forum.
I am away with work at the moment....for another 2 weeks but I do have a german manual for the 120VM. I think I have a electronic copy on my home computer because it runs to 100+pages, so I can check when I get home and forward it to you if you like.
As to a price estimate that depends on a lot of factors. Is it in full working condition, any signs of wear, available accessories etc. Spares for these machines are rare and generally would have to be considered unobtainable. They were very high end machines in their day but that was a long time ago. Only about 2000 were ever made so you won't get too many chances to buy one. If it is in good working order with not too much wear and at least the basic accessories many people would be interested in the machine. If the price was $2000 you would consider that a good deal, $3000-$4000 probably reasonable and a high end machine with lots of accessories might command $8-10000 in some circumstances. Thats just my 2 cents worth, others may think differently. We love pictures on this forum so if you have any post them and we can give you a better guide.
In the meantime here is some information from the Lathe uk site for you to read if you have not seen it before
http://www.lathes.co.uk/schaublin/page9.html
will get back to you when I get home
Mark
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