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    Default Scraping Class in Melbourne

    Seems they let anyone in here. For those that don’t know me, my name is Phil. And I’m a self employed service engineer here in Melbourne. I’ve spent a few hours over the past few days reading threw this thread from end to end.

    I’m glad I found this place, where most of you Aussies congregate. Its like a golf club for guys with a metal addiction. Far less noise here. It seems I know many of you all ready from other forums. R.C, Pete F, etc. For those I don’t know yet, G’day.

    I actually caught up in person with Greg Q & Joe Hovel on Wednesday afternoon, here in my factory. And that was a pleasure.

    We are toying with the thought of trying to put together a scraping class, similar to the ones held in the States. Very infant at this stage. And I wouldn’t get any ones hopes up just yet.

    I’d be happy to host it here. I can organize one of the old masters, that still scraps 50 hours a week, to conduct it.

    And I’ve done a lot of it over the years, and worked with all the past scraping hands. I’m happy to help out and cook the barbeque.

    I have any amount of equipment here, and space isn’t a problem, for 6 – 8 blokes over a weekend. It was Joe’s idea, so I’m nominating him as the steward of the ship.

    If you have any interest, address them to Joe, and I’ll just work in with him and Greg, to see what we can come up with. While we kick a few ideas around, for the next week or so, if we could contain it here, without letting it slip on to HSM or P.M

    Best regards.

    Phil Fehring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtool View Post
    It seems I know many of you all ready from other forums. R.C, Pete F, etc. For those I don’t know yet, G’day.

    Best regards.

    Phil Fehring.
    Hey Phil, don't worry, they're all much nicer than me

    Welcome to the madness!

    Pete

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    I have sent a PM to Joe expressing my interest in attending the scraping class should it eventuate...

    It would mean a trip on one of those new fangled aeroplane things, but I think I heard they are safeish these days, depending on the pilot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    I have sent a PM to Joe expressing my interest in attending the scraping class should it eventuate...

    It would mean a trip on one of those new fangled aeroplane things, but I think I heard they are safeish these days, depending on the pilot...
    I hear Tiger have some cheap fares going at the moment

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    OK guys, seeing that Phil himself let the cat out of the bag, I'll admit to "hassling" him Phil is actually a "master scraper" himself, but can't see himself as a teacher - despite the heap of things Greg and I learnt just chatting and watching him work and looking at his machines...
    I also put up some unauthorised fliers at the Bendigo Model Engineers Expo looking for expressions of interest. Only one response from that so far.
    I don't think we'll have any trouble getting a class of enthusiasts together in Melbourne.
    I'll keep working at it.
    Cheers,
    Joe

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    Ok Joe, you can add my name to the list, however unfortunately as a very unreliable candidate as I'm not at all sure what I'm doing with work and probably won't right up until the day prior. But definitely keen if that's any help.

    Pete

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    I'm on the road at the moment so I'll keep this brief. Phil was a generous host to Joe and I the other day. As Joe says, we learned a lot from him. Phil has years of experience as a builder and rebuilder of machine tools, so he has already nutted out the solutions to survey and geometric accuracy.

    He is the real deal.

    I hope that we can make this class happen...I think there's enough guys on this thread alone to make it worthwhile.

    Greg...with a big wet public thanks to Phil (and Joe for being the spark plug in making it happen).
    It's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™

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    A few things would have to line up, but put me on the 'definitely interested' list.

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    I'll fly over.

    BT

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    Hi Phil, Welcome.

    Joe, I'd like to be on the list.
    Thanks

    Stuart

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    OK guys.
    It's great to see that we can fill one class straight-off!

    So we don't get ahead of ourselves:
    No dates have been considered yet! The 'Master' Phil mentioned has not agreed to run the course yet...
    Unlike many other training programs, a scraping class will need a lot of organisation, for example: supplies which are not easily available. E.g. suitable cast iron pieces with know qualities. We may have to get them cast or or cut from scrap. To enable everyone to get the most useful experience, they will also have to be machined - maybe ground. Then we need to have a means to hold them - making wooden work bases with slats that can be clamped to work benches in Phil's shop. Maybe making some hand scrapers - for those who don't yet have any or want to see what's around before buying or making their own. We only know of two commercial electric scrapers plus my home-made one. No way are all participants able to get a lot out of the class without at least using a machine for some of the time. We would also have decent reference notes for participants to take away to refer to later.
    Next comes some sussing out of accommodation for participants from outside of town (including me). We need to factor into the program some food and refreshment issues (at the very least storage) and something sensible but enjoyable to do after the first day's class - maybe a factory visit (a beer factory maybe? ).
    As you can see, this is going to take more than a month or two to organise. We are all working full-time in our 'normal' lives on the side...
    I would not expect this class to get off the ground before September or October this year at the earliest.
    Hope that helps - so noone gets any ideas of "coming over" next weekend
    Cheers,
    Joe

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    I'm in.

    I have nothing to scrape at present, but would like to increase my skills.

    If nothing else, Greg's coffee is to die for.

    Ken

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    I'm in no rush Joe. The later the better. I'll be in Germany and France all of October. If I happen to miss the fun and games, I'll fly over another time and one of you blokes can give me one on one tuition.

    BT

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    I have some ideas I can help with... I cannot do a lot being so far away though....

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    +1 Yes yes, Greg is on coffee.

    Let us know if there is anything we can help with Joe

    Stuart

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