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14th June 2012, 12:36 AM #121Senior Member
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Thanks for the info the ripples are from the original machining ...
... and you are right on being to light handed i will give it a go blind for a few passes as described and see how i go
Nick
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16th June 2012, 03:56 PM #122Senior Member
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Hi Nick
The parallel scraping was just to take the rust off but no material the ripples where already there the radius is i think 90mm
Cheers
Harty
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17th October 2012, 11:27 PM #123Pink 10EE owner
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A long vid on youtube on scraping.... Have not watched it all yet... too tired
K & J Scraping Training Video - YouTubeLight red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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24th October 2012, 02:18 PM #124Pink 10EE owner
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Novel way I discovered of checking a straight edge for things like stiffness as well as flatness..
I surface ground a couple of cheep 1.2.3 blocks as a pair and they came out very identical in dimensions, sat the straight edge on them first at the ends and then at the airy points... And used a 0.0001" indicator to check any deviation...
Found out the straight edge does not seem to sag to any appreciable degree if supported at the ends.... Also hard to determine flatness as the scrape marks are 0.0001-0.0002 deep, but it seems pretty good...
Then put my 36" steel scraped straight edge on it and got the same results..
Also something to do with canode.... Using it as a marking medium to print out a gasketLight red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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24th October 2012, 03:08 PM #125GOLD MEMBER
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Interesting so whats not flat your casting or your gasket material.
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24th October 2012, 03:16 PM #126Pink 10EE owner
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Buying a gasket set from Malaysia and having one turn up in 6 pieces was the problem..
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24th October 2012, 03:24 PM #127
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24th October 2012, 03:36 PM #128Pink 10EE owner
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Yes... One discussion I read somewhere was straight edges can sag if supported only from the ends.. This camel back pattern was a light weight one, with less of a pronounced hump then other designs leading to thoughts it would not be rigid.. Turns out that is not the case.... They only move from unequal temperature changes...
Although Ray I think you may be able to measure some sag with some of your equipmentLight red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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24th October 2012, 03:49 PM #129
Are you also saying that the bar in the 3rd pic that you are measuring is scraped and not sagging either?
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24th October 2012, 04:12 PM #130Pink 10EE owner
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Yes, is it a piece of 75mm X 20mm flat bar scraped flat... It has never moved since I scraped it..
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24th October 2012, 04:13 PM #131GOLD MEMBER
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The bar may well be scraped but it will sag,you couldnt really tell with the measuring gear involved.
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24th October 2012, 04:26 PM #132Pink 10EE owner
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If it sags less then 0.005mm then I could not care less... Some of us know how much 5 microns is...
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24th October 2012, 04:35 PM #133
It puts the idea of a fabricated camel back in my head. Of course scraping it would be much harder than scraping a cast one, but it would be much cheaper to make. Is there any reason other than ease of production that camel backs are cast iron?
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24th February 2013, 08:13 AM #134SENIOR MEMBER
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I finally got around to doing some scraping for myself. I managed to pick up this small surface plate from the Restorers Barn in Castlemaine for $20. I am guessing it was a trade school project from back in the day before someone decided we didn't need to know how to do this stuff anymore
The plate measures 6" x 7.5" and was badly domed in the centre. After 2 days of scraping I decided to have it surface ground. Saved a lot of time
Hopefully I will finish it off today
Phil
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24th February 2013, 12:30 PM #135GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Phil,
Great work(other than whimping out and getting it surface ground )
The only thing I would question is it it looks like you were being far to nicein the first in 4th or 5th pictureuntil the 4th or 5th picture. Though pictures of bluing can look very different to the real thing.
StuartLast edited by Stustoys; 24th February 2013 at 02:08 PM. Reason: reworded
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