The new scraping thread

[eskimo]

800x500x130mm $720+gst
1000x630x100mm $890+gst
1000x630x150mm $970+gst

Have a look in the attached pdf
at $1.30 exchange rate they are cheap

just rang and the price is still current...wonder it they charge for freight?

[Greg Q]

Have a look in the attached pdf
at $1.30 exchange rate they are cheap

just rang and the price is still current...wonder it they charge for freight?

Dat's cheap all right. But the same old run-around with shipping via sea from NZ. I imagine the price gap would close quickly.

Greg

[Greg Q]

cool thanks for the reply. your trip would of been great. this really goes to show the depth of knowledge
floating around this site. were there other students of scraping there or was it awas this a 1 on 1 type of training set up. if you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living

No, this was a group of about thirty guys and girls from the western side of North America and me. It was organised by a guy in Seattle and is becoming an annual event. Look for details under 'scrapefest' on Practical Machinist - Largest Manufacturing Technology Forum on the Web

It was held in the workshop of the local TAFE's welding school. Everyone had a vise at one of four or five benches, and we scraped from 8 to 5 Sat and Sunday. There was also an opportunity to use on of the shop's big bandsaws. I bought some dura-bar cast iron blanks from Forrest and sawed them into dovetail spotting master shapes for later scraping.

The class was tiring and good fun. You can get any basic technique from a book or internet tutorial, but doing it with teachers is so much faster. A big part of the class for me was the metrology and survey aspects. If I go back for the intermediate class it will be for those skills alone.

My avatar sums up what I do for a crust, only the planes that I fly now are less fun.

[eskimo]

Dat's cheap all right. But the same old run-around with shipping via sea from NZ. I imagine the price gap would close quickly.

Greg

is AU$932.00 delivered (air) for the 36x24 too dear?

[Anorak Bob]

No, this was a group of about thirty guys and girls from the western side of North America and me. It was organised by a guy in Seattle and is becoming an annual event. Look for details under 'scrapefest' on Practical Machinist - Largest Manufacturing Technology Forum on the Web

It was held in the workshop of the local TAFE's welding school. Everyone had a vise at one of four or five benches, and we scraped from 8 to 5 Sat and Sunday. There was also an opportunity to use on of the shop's big bandsaws. I bought some dura-bar cast iron blanks from Forrest and sawed them into dovetail spotting master shapes for later scraping.

The class was tiring and good fun. You can get any basic technique from a book or internet tutorial, but doing it with teachers is so much faster. A big part of the class for me was the metrology and survey aspects. If I go back for the intermediate class it will be for those skills alone.

My avatar sums up what I do for a crust, only the planes that I fly now are less fun.

Ken's always telling the rest of us how big your shop is. Big enough for you to host and conduct a scraping show and tell?

I'll fly over.

BT

[Greg Q]

I put special stuff in Ken's coffee when he comes over that makes my shop look so big. I bought it from Lewis Carroll. Same stuff I used to give to the ladies.

There is a machinery rebuilder here whom I have yet to meet despite his invitation. I want to sound him out about doing just such a class here in Melbourne. All we would need is about six to ten guys I reckon.

I have a two car garage which is too small for that many people I think, unless I evict all the contents and just set up two workbenches with vises. One surface plate is enough for that small of a class. The simplest thing like cast iron bars may be the hardest thing to get.

Greg

[neksmerj]

Ah ha, now the truth comes out, so it was the home roasted roasted coffee eh? And I thought it was just the intoxication of your presence. I often wondered why it took 30 minutes with instrument approach to your place, and only 3 minutes to get back home.

Greg is of course being modest, so I won't spoil the dream. With the Robo R44 and Cessna wheeled out, there'd be plenty of room. There is of course another vast space at the establishment, occupied by a quilting machine of little interest to us blokes.

A huge fight would of course ensue if the boss had her machine touched, so that's out.

AB, when you fly over, please wrap the finished cast iron planes in tissue paper, to prevent damage. Greg and I always appreciate Westerner's bearing gifts with sharp blades.

Time for another coffee!

Ken

[harty69]

oooh a class count me in on that for sure Greg
might stay away from the coffee though
had the nice post man turn up today with a present now all I need to do is find something to wreck i mean scrape

cheers
Harty

[Greg Q]

Since I posted this afternoon I learned that I have been awarded a new job in SYD starting in October. I will have to get busy trying to get a million new facts to stick to what I laughingly call "my mind". Anything I hoped to do is now on hold until March 2012 unless (and this is likely) I can get someone else to pick up the ball. I can attend with supplies and scrapers etc, and teach, but I cannot do much organising I don't reckon.

Stay tuned...I'm going to try to get this thread wrapped up with some pointers, tips and suggestions before it all gets weird.

GQ (I went to school on the short bus. The next 6-8 months are going to be more of the same)

[.RC.]

Since I posted this afternoon I learned that I have been awarded a new job in SYD starting in October. I will have to get busy trying to get a million new facts to stick to what I laughingly call "my mind".

I don't think the job of hostie is going to need too much knowledge Greg..

[Greg Q]

I was trying to keep the gender re-assignment a secret RC! I am going to be keeping Pete F. company on his ride for awhile. That hostie gig is easy...a little eye lash batting, a little wiggle, some quality time in the first class loo and whamo! you're on Four Corners I better send this before the ex-hostie wife sees this

[C-47]

Greg,
Is that a big bird assignment with 4 air movers. Alan.

[Greg Q]

No, I downbid for the big thang, and was half expecting to get it, but the new job is my current rank on the 330. I'm astonished that it happened this year, and still parsing out the possibilities and trying to map out the way between now and Oct when I start. Some juggling, but I am so looking forward to a new chapter after 1/4 century on the same type.

[Greg Q]

is AU$932.00 delivered (air) for the 36x24 too dear?

I'm sorry that I missed this earlier...it's been a busy day. I was just looking over the information on the Starrett site regarding the information on the US specification for granite surface plates. In the 24" X 36" size there is a 4" thick version, but it has the lowest vertical loading category. Most (if not all) plates that size that I have seen are 6" thick..

I don't yet have a grip on how much if any a 4" thick plate would deflect in a home shop environment. My suspicion is that in most things we can get away with a notch lighter stuff than a pro shop since we are a: careful and b: Paying the bills and c: lacking in devil-may-care users like a pro shop.

All of the above considered, I am personally thinking the 800 X 500 plate would suit me perfectly as I listed above for $720 + GST

[RayG]

To go with that new granite surface plate, you need a place to put it... I've been working on this today..



The design is modelled off the Mitutoyo tables. The surface plate is only supported at three levelling points, the two at the front and the center one at the back, the other two at the back are to stop the plate from rocking. The support points are at the 20% points as recommended by Starret. Although they also recommend the support points should be the same as the support points when the plate was calibrated.

The rest of the bench is for other stuff, the Avery hardness tester, and some cupboard space underneath for related junk.

Josh has the design drawn up in Solid works, first time we are going direct from solid works to finished article. The legs are 65x65x3 SHS

Regards
Ray