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Thread: Screw Cutting Diameter Allowance
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22nd December 2011, 11:41 AM #1Senior Member
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Screw Cutting Diameter Allowance
Hi all, I am screwcutting a 5/16 W 18 tpi screw for my lathe.
The question is, what OD is the blank ?
5/16 inch = 7.94 mm.
All the references I can find (at home this morning) suggest applying an allowance of about 1.0-1.5% for a 1/2 inch W thread.
This would make my screw OD about 7.83 mm.
The commercial bolts and machine screws in my stock are OD 7.7 to 7.77 mm.
I have made the first (of two) screws at 7.84 mm OD and 45 mm length.
Thread depth the regulation 0.64 x 1/18 inch = 0.903 mm.
Shape looks good with a magnifying lens.
One commercial nut runs the length without any looseness, another is very tight in the middle.
The screw fits the target fixing in the lathe firmly, but OK.
Any suggestions for the OD on the next one ?
Happy machining,
John
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23rd December 2011, 10:02 AM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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I too would like to know the answer to this. Im guessing the truth is buried somewhere inside 'machinerys handbook'. I guess given its a firm fit in your target bolt hole then you need to machine the next one a bit smaller. Perhaps the 1 - 1.5% target is for precision fit and for general fit its more like 2-2.5%
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23rd December 2011, 11:08 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Not really knowing the class of fit you are after,you could look for an OD of Close .3075" (7.81mm)
Medium .3058" (7.76mm) or Free .3037" (7.71mm).
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23rd December 2011, 11:12 AM #4
tolerances
I find that when buying new bolts , the fit tolerances are all over the place . Seems to be no effective standard in use by the manufacturers. Most of the nuts are rather loose on the bolt . Standards are slipping , like most other things . MIKE
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23rd December 2011, 01:26 PM #5Senior Member
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Thanks guys for jumping in on this.
I have spent some time researching the subject, without any singular success, and I am inclined to follow the advice from Pipeclay.
The US has 4 Classes of Fit, #1 the loosest and #4 the tightest.
My Kents Mechanical Engineers Handbook, printed 1946, quotes Class 2 as the general purpose close matching Fit and "represents a high quality of screw thread product".
My reading of the handbook tables has Class 2 for a 5/16 inck 18 tpi maximum OD at 0.3125 in = 7.94 mm and minimum OD = 0.3011 in = 7.64 mm.
I think I will go with the 7.81 mm from Pipeclay.
John.
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30th December 2011, 07:31 PM #6Senior Member
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Well, I made the second screw thread at dia 7.81 mm and it, and the first one, settled in nicely after a bit of burr removal and exercise with lubricant.
The target is a travelling steady for my lathe.
I swapped some Citric Acid for the casting with a Forum member some time ago.
The images show the original casting and the final assemby.
I made:
2 x 7/16 W bolts from 1214 Hex bar,
2 x fingers from 1020 bar,
2 x finger tips from Brass, Loctite into finger,
2 x finger adjusters each:
- 5/16 W threaded 1214 shaft (subject of this thread),
- 1020 head, Loctite onto shaft,
2 x grub screw locking pads from Brass ( dia 4.9 x 2 thick ).
Commercial:
2 x grub screws.
I know the paint is poor, I used a brush with 3 year-old paint purchased with the lathe as a matching colour - it just would not mix properly (that's my excuse).
John.
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9th January 2012, 09:20 AM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Sweet, looks good. Have you had a go at using it yet? Im going to start playing with steadies soon to see if I can get the hang of them.
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9th January 2012, 09:17 PM #8Senior Member
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Brendan,
Thanks for the comments.
The steady certainly looks the part on the lathe, but I am not anxious to use it.
I have never used one and, by all reports, they can be a real problem due to burrs on the work and swarf pick-up.
John.
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