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24th April 2009, 06:51 PM #1New Member
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Sebastian Lathe
Hi there,
Just joined and thrilled to find a local group of metal workers. No offence intended to the wood workers here by the way. I like wood, you just can't weld it...
I'm in Melbourne, and am looking for advice about an old lathe I have aquired. It is about 100 years old from what I can guess. It's an American 'Sebastian' which I got off a guy via ebay about a year ago. It may have originally been a treadle lathe? Unfortunately I know nothing of it's history. It seems to have been bastardised in various ways, however it works, and it's the only one I have. I would like some advice with regards to getting it running better and truer, and also on getting some missing parts for it.
It has about 4 change gears with it. So far I can cut 3 types of thread, none of them very much use to me. I'd love a full set, even if I have to adapt them. I also need something to go in the tailstock ram. I think it's a MT2. I machined up a rough dead centre for it, but would like to put a drill chuck in there dor centre drilling. So anyone know where you'd find stuff this old?
Thanks
Madmorrie
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24th April 2009, 11:53 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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MadMorrie
Welcome, I know where you are at when you say "you can't weld it".
re your old lathe
tailstock, if its a std morse taper you can pick up a chuck and arbor just about anywhere. Like most things these days you get what you pay for. If you can afford it buy a good name brand like Jacobs, Allbrech ( I have no idea what they would be worth these days, sorry) or otherwise I'd go for a more expensive one from a reputable dealer rather than an el cheapo off ebay.
For more info on the machine you might have more luck asking on the "Antique Machinery & History" sub forum on the Practical Machinst website
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/index.php
just scroll down the page, its easy to find.
you could also ask on these forums as well
http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/index.php
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=3
keep us posted please
regards
bollie7
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25th April 2009, 05:34 PM #3Senior Member
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There is a bit of information about one model of Sebastian lathe with some similarities to yours here:
http://www.lathes.co.uk/sebastian/index.html
They mention that the headstock taper is 3MT, so it is probable as you suspect that your tailstock is 2MT, and not one of the other slightly different tapers which were not uncommon when your lathe was built.
Parts other than normal engineering items like centres, chucks etc.will be a problem unless you are lucky enough to find them second hand on American e-bay, but everything looks fairly simple and most bits except castings could probably be easily made. What bits are you looking for?
Frank
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16th May 2009, 11:14 AM #4Senior Member
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madmorrie,
There is a photo of a lathe the same as yours in Sweden which still has the original treadle fitted here:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...en-181473.html
Frank
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9th June 2009, 07:03 AM #5New Member
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the swedish lathe
I was looking for some more information on the sebastian lathe machine I bought yesterday in Dalarna in the middle of Sweden and when I found your forum I discovered this picture of exactly my machine. Its fully functioning and I got a whole lot of parts with it, but I would like to know how old it could be. The old man who had it before me only worked in wood with it and he used only on pedal while he was working. He was standing on his other foot. Does anybody know if you can work in metal only with man power? And is it common to use both pedals?
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9th June 2009, 10:15 AM #6Senior Member
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hansjoerg,
Welcome to the forum.
Probably the best place to find more information on Sebastian lathes is the Antique Machinery and History section of the Practical Machinist forum:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...istory-19.html
A search there produced 50 references to Sebastian lathes between 2002 and the present:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...archid=1709208
and several of the members there own them. If you post a query there, preferably including a photo of your lathe or a link to the topic which I gave in the post above, you will almost certainly get some answers to your questions. Sebastian lathes are fairly rare in Australia, so there will probably not be much information available from owners here, but there is a lot of interest in old machinery in the P M forum.
Several members there own other makes of treadle lathes too, so they should be able to answer your question about how they operate them. I have never used a treadle lathe, but have used a treadle operated grinder operated with one foot pedal. It was very slow and hard work grinding HSS lathe tools, but you did get used to standing on one leg and operating the treadle with the other eventually.
Frank.
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20th July 2009, 09:48 AM #7Senior Member
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Another one:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...he-185308.html
franco
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