Thread: Slideway grinders go for a song

RC, do you think the crane on your truck, can handle that????? Better hurry and clean a spot for it in the shed.

Originally Posted by KBs PensNmore

RC, do you think the crane on your truck, can handle that????? Better hurry and clean a spot for it in the shed.

Well of course i think it can....not...

Getting a 20 or 25 tonne franna out to take it off.. Have another crane job of shifting an eight tonne concrete tank that I have been wanting to do for a couple of years, so will get it done at the same time..

I will have to do a massive rearrangement in the shed, which includes another 12m X 12m extension for other stuff and cement another area and turn it into a machine tool area.. All that to do and here I am typing here...


Many many many thanks to Phil for helping me out here... Also many many thanks to everyone else who provided support, except maybe Mark who convinced me to buy it..

But Phil tells me it looks pretty good... And I have a flaker anyway, so just tool alone can fully rebuild old machines..

Let us know when it's set up and finished, so that we can start sending work to you, to help pay for it
Kryn

Originally Posted by .RC.

Found a photo of that 9.8m Billiter on their website

I wrote to David El, one of the co-owner brothers at Mar...

That machine was sent to scrap 2 years ago, round about the time they offered it to sale to Marko, Me & my Jewish brother.

I'm standing down and going home in the morning from this job.

The pot hole I put in the floor when I dropped Richard's arm and column through the concrete floor. That's going to take a day or two for the new concrete to set before I can run a crane over it to get to the export machine.
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The U.K freight company finally made contact this afternoon, after Richards concrete beaten machine got dispatched. They cant find me an empty 40ft open top container. So I packed my stuff, and heading home in the morning. I'm leaving the trailer here. So I have to come back.

The other Phil.

Originally Posted by Machtool

I'm standing down and going home in the morning from this job.

The pot hole I put in the floor when I dropped Richard's arm and column through the concrete floor. That's going to take a day or two for the new concrete to set before I can run a crane over it to get to the export machine.
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Just to let you know Phil.. The cheque is in the mail...

Was expecting someone in the back operating a winch, grinder on rollers, pulling it in - then when they break the seals on arrival, find the mummified remains - like the old ship building days!

If RC has a change of heart after all this, Grays rang around again yesterday looking for stock.

Originally Posted by Machtool

That machine was sent to scrap 2 years ago, round about the time they offered it to sale to Marko, Me & my Jewish brother.

Oh well.....

When you put it into context the government will put protection orders on crappy derelict buildings and spend millions bringing these obsolete buildings that serve no purpose back up to new condition, yet do not protect machines that are one of a kind and are still productive... But them I suppose you can just put in an order with Waldrich Coburg or Danobat or Favretto or any of the other manufacturers of grinders for a new CNC one... Provided something does not happen that would stop delivery if you needed one in a hurry...

I even found out the other day that government puts export prohibition orders on some steam traction engines..

Originally Posted by .RC.

I even found out the other day that government puts export prohibition orders on some steam traction engines..

And so they should.
Down off my soapbox now.

Phil

Well done Phil. This heavy machinery moving is never as easy as it seems and it is always great to get these machines and yourself home in one piece.


One of the reasons a lot of these machines get scrapped is the difficulty and cost of relocation. It was interesting talking to the scrappie who originally brought Richards machine because I could not really see the commercial sense in it. He said he would have to hire a crane to pick it up and again on delivery as well as hire a truck to move it to his yard. There was also the time for his employees to dismantle and prepare for pickup. Even on the absolute cheap no change out of $1500, so with the $300 purchase price that makes $1800. Not sure what the scrap price for cast iron is but probably around $100/tonne so that only makes $1200 max. So even if you take off the motors and other pieces for sale I can't see anything in it for them. Are my maths that far off?
So its easy to pay $300 for the machine and go WOW thats cheap but the cost of moving, installing and housing these machines far outways the purchase costs. It will be interesting to see the final breakdown of Richards costs if hes up for sharing.
A few years ago I went to the 'Turon technology park' which is near Bathurst in Central west NSW. It was basically a small farm with an incredible collection of working steam engines. We are talking the big end of town here.... they had a triple expansion steam engine that came out of the ICI glass factory in Sydney that was the size of a small house as just one example. The owner said it cost $100000 to move!! ICI was under great pressure at the time to conserve it but no one wanted it so they paid to have it shifted to this museum. Now the gentleman and his wife had a great passion for steam engines and had devoted their lives to collecting and restoring these engines. He was an accountant by trade from memory. But he was getting old and wanted to sell the farm and the engines so he could retire to the city. Suddenly the engines went from great joy to millstone around his neck. No one wanted to buy the farm if they had to pay for the ?1000 tonnes of steam engines on the place and although he could have sold some of the smaller engines individually he wanted to keep it as a working museum. So he felt somewhat trapped by his situation. I have never been back... does anyone know what happened or if the place is still going. Anyway I sometimes think I might be creating a monster for my kids or maybe one hell of a clearing sale



I even found out the other day that government puts export prohibition orders on some steam traction engines..[/QUOTE]

This has been the case for some years as they were disappearing back to the mother country very quickly. Have heard of people breaking working machines down to individual parts and sending them back that way. Indeed a machine that is pulled apart but complete can be worth more than a going machine!!

Looking forward to pictures Richard when it gets to its final resting place

Mark

Originally Posted by markgray

It will be interesting to see the final breakdown of Richards costs if hes up for sharing.

It will probably be a mystery that one... I will not be game to add it up.. But it is only money is it not?

Originally Posted by .RC.

It will probably be a mystery that one... I will not be game to add it up.. But it is only money is it not?

You can't take it with you, the kids won't love you any more for it, enjoy it while you can, so why not be a SKIN.
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Kryn

pics The crane company were absolute professionals... They were not power pole installers.. The biggest issue I had was low headroom getting them into the shed.. Of course you can see what the weather was like... The table ways speak for themselves, and that photo was taken in the middle, where I would expect the most wear (what wear?) Unfortunately parts of the vertical column ways show some nasty tearing from lack of lubricant, but the cross arm ways are very good as well...

yes it is a BIG machine, base on their load calculator was 7 tonnes, column was just under 3..

The machine will fit where I intend putting it...

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Well done. Glad it made it there safe.

Looks like a normal machine now that the riser is out.

Phil.