From when I first started buying taps, dies and drills it the mid 70`s it was always P&N. An excellent Australian product.

When Suttons took over P&N about 20 years ago P&N seemed to me to basically disappear. This is probable because the companies I was working with at the time changed to or were supplied Suttons.

I went with Suttons as I use to be able to buy them through one of the companies I contracted to at a vastly reduced price than I could buy over the counter. I have generally stayed with them since as I have found them to be a good product.

Anyway a month or so ago I was at the big green shed looking for some bolts and what should I see but some P&N products. Great was my first thought, then I compared them to the Frost products hanging next to them. Frost was more expensive!!! Frost is the bottom of the barrel as far as I am concerned so what standard are P&N now. Suttons were there as well but vastly more expensive than I can remember paying for them 3 or 4 years ago at my regular nuts and bolts place.

Well I ended up buying a 3 pack (M5,6 & 8) of P&N and have been using them instead of my Suttons mainly in Ally or brass with a couple of M8 holes in steel with good results.

As far as I was concerned Suttons where still Australian made with Frost being their cheap Chinese line. I don`t remember seeing anything on the package of the P&N.

I suppose after all that my question is has anyone been using P&N lately and what do you think.

Where are these brands made now?

Tony


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