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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    I'll often go oversize with my drill size if it's not a critical tapped hole,
    When you become as skilled as I am with hand sharpening drills free hand on the grinder you do not need to use a larger drill as all my drills now drill oversize automatically...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornetb View Post
    What I notice, particularly in the cheap sets is that the handles also are absolutely rubbish.

    So does anyone have any recommendations on brands of good handles to drive your taps?
    Not just the cheap sets.

    I only have one recommendation. For the love of "insert deity of your choice", dont buy anything by Goliath without having a good look at it first.

    I have a fair load of Goliath handles.......... I'd give them to you... but I wouldnt give them away...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Not just the cheap sets.

    I only have one recommendation. For the love of "insert deity of your choice", dont buy anything by Goliath. Without having a good look at it first.

    I have a fair load of Goliath handles.......... I'd give them to you... but I wouldnt give them away...


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    Funny that you mention that. I was looking for a Goliath spring loaded tap handle, with a dimple in the top for a lathe center. No dice. The Goliath tap runners looked very ordinary indeed.

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    I think greenfield are some of the best handles money can buy. Not that I have any but that is what I have read.

    I regularly use a pair of old p&n's, fragram ratchet t bars and an old tiny little m&w for m3 and 4s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornetb View Post
    Some good info here. Like many, I am due to upgrade to better taps.

    What I notice, particularly in the cheap sets is that the handles also are absolutely rubbish.

    So does anyone have any recommendations on brands of good handles to drive your taps?
    Could be a good project to make your own as this fellow has done.

    http://home.comcast.net/~tarum/Tap_Wrench.html

    They are from plans by South Bend. Not sure what the policy here is regarding linking to another forum (PM) but there is more information out there regarding this particular project and how it was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropetangler View Post
    yep..eye watering but they are full retail prices....you do need to shop around....you can get them for a lot less

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    When you become as skilled as I am with hand sharpening drills free hand on the grinder you do not need to use a larger drill as all my drills now drill oversize automatically...
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    Possibly the only skill which I would excel over you RC.

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    Yeah I bought an el cheapo ratchet T handle from Nubco. Heap of poop, hence why I would be reluctant to buy any no name brand one in future. My guess is anything with a decent name on it would probably be ok (eg. Starret, etc).

    The sad thing is I spent probably thirty minutes on my "el cheapo" cleaning up the nasty threads and creating a centre point in the butt end for the tail stock etc. Then I actually inserted a tap in it and realised that the collet that held the tap was bored so out of line that it was unbelievable and in no way salvageable. I should have taken it straight back but I was tempted to just throw it in the river to teach myself a lesson. But instead I keep it as a reminder to try to not buy cheap tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmebgo View Post
    Could be a good project to make your own as this fellow has done.

    http://home.comcast.net/~tarum/Tap_Wrench.html

    They are from plans by South Bend. Not sure what the policy here is regarding linking to another forum (PM) but there is more information out there regarding this particular project and how it was made.

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    Very nice. I suspect its worth my while having a go at that and its a nice little project.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    I think greenfield are some of the best handles money can buy. Not that I have any but that is what I have read.

    I regularly use a pair of old p&n's, fragram ratchet t bars and an old tiny little m&w for m3 and 4s.

    Ew
    I do have some Greenfield handles and they are SUPERB. I posted this a while back, might be of interest again? https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...73#post1343273

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    I would only buy spiral or gun nose, spiral for blind holes and gun for through holes.
    Turns out there are bottoming gun taps. I'm going to need more room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Turns out there are bottoming gun taps. I'm going to need more room.

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    I have been trying hard all day to not email the Guhring guys. The price on some of their sets is unexpected in a good way (for once)! So many delightful treats. I managed to traverse all their previous monthly deals - tasty! All I can say is my finances are fortunate their Online Shop is not up and running yet..

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    Die holders are not impossible to make. Tap holders are trickier, but the hardened steel jaws are only little so should be able to be hardened with a torch. A LH thread or two and you are laughing...

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...64#post1455664

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    I think I may end up being the proud owner of some Guhring taps in the near future... I've been thinking I need some proper machine taps, and conveniently enough I drive through Oakleigh once a week...

    Whilst poking through the monthly specials, I noticed they actually have an app for iPhone/iPad for determining milling/drilling/tapping/reaming speeds... It's called 'Optimising', can be found in the Apple store. Worth a look, and maybe quite useful for some out in the workshop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll and Hyde View Post
    Whilst poking through the monthly specials, I noticed they actually have an app for iPhone/iPad for determining milling/drilling/tapping/reaming speeds... It's called 'Optimising', can be found in the Apple store. Worth a look, and maybe quite useful for some out in the workshop...
    Doesn't look to be available outside the walled garden

    Buy some, you won't be disappointed!

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