Thread: My new toy, Deckel FP1

Originally Posted by thorens

i think the spherical element at that end of the lever should be grub screw in place ?

Peter,
The spherical part must be free to slide along the shift lever otherwise the whole thing will lock up, so no grub screw is needed.
I reached in with a pair of firm joint calipers to get a rough size for the spherical OD - about 14.5mm.
Regards,
Bill

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Originally Posted by Greg Q

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Thanks Greg and Bill.
now time to retract the broken bolt . danm this will be hard
cheers
Peter

Originally Posted by thorens

now time to retract the broken bolt

Peter,
In case all else fails:
I found a photo that shows how to get to the top of the X feed control shaft so it can be removed - at least on my version of the FP1.
With the X slide removed, there is a window in the front of the saddle that gives access to the top of the shaft. A short lever is keyed to the top of the shaft and secured axially with an M4 slotted head screw; with the screw loosened the shaft drops out - in theory.
Cheers,
Bill
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"In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is."

Originally Posted by WCD

Peter,
In case all else fails:
I found a photo that shows how to get to the top of the X feed control shaft so it can be removed - at least on my version of the FP1.
With the X slide removed, there is a window in the front of the saddle that gives access to the top of the shaft. A short lever is keyed to the top of the shaft and secured axially with an M4 slotted head screw; with the screw loosened the shaft drops out - in theory.
Cheers,
Bill
saddle without x slide large.jpg
"In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is."

Thanks Bill.
look like this is a good option to get the broken bolt out .other way might be ok but very tight space to do the job properly .
cheers
Peter

it seem China made the new 220v to 380v 3 phase now. what you guys reckon ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2KW-25A-In...item3cf2d95008

Peter

Peter, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news again.....
I'm afraid that looks like a translation error or just plain ignorance.
This is a Standard 380V Hunayang VFD.
A few lines down it says:
Input Power 380V class：380±15% (we also stock 220V item, please contact us for stock)

I nearly got sucked in with similar claims by another manufacturer - until I corresponded with them and realised they had no idea what they were selling at all.

Originally Posted by jhovel

Peter, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news again.....
I'm afraid that looks like a translation error or just plain ignorance.
This is a Standard 380V Hunayang VFD.
A few lines down it says:
Input Power 380V class：380±15% (we also stock 220V item, please contact us for stock)

I nearly got sucked in with similar claims by another manufacturer - until I corresponded with them and realised they had no idea what they were selling at all.

thanks.
you have saved me
it is very confusing with those chinese seller . however why would they try to sell the same thing's but double the money ? this is even more confusing.
here is what they said in they description.

Technical Paramer

1.Inpute voltage:220V±15%

2.Output voltage:380VAC±15%(analogous to input voltage)

3.Input Frequency:48-63HZ

4.Outpute Frequency:0-400HZ

5.Inpute phase:1 phase or 3 phase

6.Outpute phase:3phase

7.warranty:1 year

(we also stock 4KW 7A, 2.2KW 10A 220-250V, 3KW 220-250V and 380V modol, please contact us for stock )

thanks again
Peter

as you can see, the only thisg that makes any sense there is 2.2kW 10A 220V.... and it probably has nothing to do with the one they are selling....

Hi Peter,


I'm sort of siding with Joe as I've seen the same sort of thing.
BUT "3HP 2.2KW Input 220V output 380V"
and the price difference have me wondering. The same guy is selling 2.2kW 240V in 240V out VSD's for $159

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2KW-220V-V...item3cf2d6d7e3

Strange... but I wouldnt be putting down $400+ unless I was sure it did what it said.

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Hi Peter,


I'm sort of siding with Joe as I've seen the same sort of thing.
BUT "3HP 2.2KW Input 220V output 380V"
and the price difference have me wondering. The same guy is selling 2.2kW 240V in 240V out VSD's for $159

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2KW-220V-V...item3cf2d6d7e3

Strange... but I wouldnt be putting down $400+ unless I was sure it did what it said.

Stuart

Hi Stuart.
i agree but you know they can't rip off on ebay any more . there is 150 days return policy just came in . so why would they sell something's that is double the money than what of the same product they sell ? i will shoot them an email and see what they say .
do you remenber there is similar product that sell in UK by the UK company ? i forgot what brand it was but do output 380v or 415v 3 phase.
cheers
Peter

Will be interesting what he has to say.

Originally Posted by thorens

do you remenber there is similar product that sell in UK by the UK company ? i forgot what brand it was but do output 380v or 415v 3 phase.

I do, I've got one, drives direct, currently $930+postage . I've never checked the output but its meant to be 415V

Stuart

p.s. did you ever get that lathe going? I never got those motor specs and figured you had moved it on to someone else.

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Will be interesting what he has to say.

I do, I've got one, drives direct, currently $930+postage . I've never checked the output but its meant to be 415V

Stuart

p.s. did you ever get that lathe going? I never got those motor specs and figured you had moved it on to someone else.

Hi Stuart.
now i remember . yes I saw the lower HP unit for around I think $600 plus shipping and I was run because of the price. didn't know you paid $930
no , i haven't got the Hardinge going yet . too much lathe and too little time. I might sell one of the lathe . either the chipmaster or the hardinge soon.
what you are up to now with your 3 phase experiments ?
regards
Peter

Originally Posted by thorens

Hi Stuart.
now i remember . yes I saw the lower HP unit for around I think $600 plus shipping and I was run because of the price. didn't know you paid $930
no , i haven't got the Hardinge going yet . too much lathe and too little time. I might sell one of the lathe . either the chipmaster or the hardinge soon.
what you are up to now with your 3 phase experiments ?
regards
Peter

I paid more like $600 and the huanyangs were more like $250 so it didnt seem to bad at the time.

More jobs than time.... sound like most of us.

I pretty much finished my 3 phase experiments...... or should I say BobL finished them for me

Stuart