Thread: Transporting Churchill surface grinder

Hi Bob

Just a suggestion . Tissuescars might transport it to the e-go depot in Sydney for you ..... I bought a shaper from him some time ago and he used his trailer and took it to the e-go depot for me . I have used e-go a few times and have never had a problem . The cost will be low if you pick it up from one of the e-go depots in QLD . e-go has a online quote web site .

Mike

Hi Bob,
If the Churchill is like the blohm you will need to undo the lock nuts at one end of the hydraulic ram. This way the table can either be choked up and then tied down or removed entirely. This only applies if it is a ball bearing roller machine, if it has plain ways it does not matter. You may also have to drain the hydraulic oil out of it if not already done.

Cheers,
Ew

G'day.

The member Peter Hart (Harty) has the same machine. Maybe he remembers how much it weighs. I'd be guessing 1500 kg's

Bruce (Abratool) has one also.

Phil.

Hi Bob

Phil is correct i do have a churchill nb grinder and he is correct on the weight as well 1500kg
mine does not have ball ways
if you PM me i can get you a copy of the manual I have

cheers
Harty

Thanks for all the help and tips guys. I ended up using road transport to get the Churchill SG up here, and it arrived safely. Ebay seller tissuescars was very obliging in palletising the SG and organising the transport company.

The Churchill NB surface grinder is a damn impressive looking piece of machinery and built like a brick sh!thouse. The 2 belt guards for instance aren't fabricated from sheet steel, they are actually 1/2" thick castings. It was definitely made in an era when expensive machinery was supposed to last almost indefinitely.

Talking about eras, the NB surface grinder gradually changed appearance over the years of its manufacture, can anyone date this one? I'm thinking 1950s myself, but that's only a guess.

Have I bought a good'un? Don't know yet, I'll discover that over the next few weeks. Tissuescars tells me the SG has been in the toolroom at B&D roller doors for the last 12 years, but now B&D subcontract that work so the SG was let go.

Interestingly the V belts driving the hydraulic unit are still the segmented style (brenner) that were originally fitted to these machines, hopefully that is a sign of low mileage.

You can get this local one for parts now bob

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/banyo...der/1039859834

Bob
Good work on purchasing the Surface Grinder.
Mine is of similiar appearance & came to Australia new from England in Aug 1950.
It was the machine I used as an apprentice in 1960 I believe, so its got good sentimental value as well as being a useful machine tool.
I would guess I am the 4rd or 5th owner. Mine cost $2000 about 22 yrs ago.
All works well, as I have mentioned before, these are "bullet proof" very solid pommie machines.
I did change the oil in the grinding head following some guidance from Phil (Machtool) & am using Shell Morlina 10
This seems to work very well as the old oil in the head was too viscous. The lighter oil has permitted the grinding finish to improve. Also my machine has a gravity fed oil reservoir on the top of the grinding head, & I use the same oil in it to maintain the correct bearing adjustment
It also has an air "breather" for that bearing, that is released every so often.
Found the history & age of the machine by contacting Churchill in England.
Although Ive got a manual it is not really applicable to my model & if Harty has a manual I would very much like to get a copy.
regards
Bruce

I've been in touch with the Churchill Machine Tool Co Ltd in England and they tell me that my machine, serial no 11023 was made in September 1937. Its brilliant that they still have records from such a long time ago.

From one of Abratool's posts, his machine no 22666 is a 1950 vintage, which means if you do the sums that Churchill were turning these surface grinders out at an average of 20 a week during that period, although presumably weekly production was higher than that during the war years. Impressive machine tool production whichever way you look at it.

Looks like mine here in the UK

I managed to get a copy of amanual from shane, Although the grinder model was for the hydraulic vert feed. Im still looking for a manual for the older version.

From the pictures your is does not have the hydraulic vert feed either so the manual you need isnt available from churchill (did check).


Need any ? info as im a member of the blades forum too and zack has a nice post on the churchill rebuild.

Derek