Universal tool & cutter grinders

**steran50** · 2nd January 2011, 03:27 PM

HI ALL

,

I have noticed that quite a few of these Herless Tool and Cutter Grinders are Popping upon Ebay in the last couple of Months. Here is Links to two of them Universal Tool & Cutter Grinder (eBay item 320636879794 end time 10-Jan-11 13:32:51 AEDST) : Industrial and

Tool and cutter grinder (eBay item 250749074837 end time 29-Jan-11 08:24:37 AEDST) : Industrial .

The first Picture is Mine that I bought just before XMAS for a bargain

at $800.00. The second Picture is of My Boss's that He bought a Month before mine for double the Price. I still have to get Mine picked up. I have been thinking of getting or trying to make something like the last Picture for doing the side of the End Mills & Slot Drills. What do You all think ?.
All the best for the New Year.

**Anorak Bob** · 2nd January 2011, 03:52 PM

That's not fair Stewart.

I least you'll be able to grind your own spindle. I might be wrong but that looks like an air bearing, or air suspended movable spindle in the grinding fixture.

A neat bit of gear.

Bob.

**China** · 2nd January 2011, 09:56 PM

You can also use a collet chuck in the work head for end mills on that of type grinder

**steran50** · 4th January 2011, 06:48 PM

HI

,

Originally Posted by China

You can also use a collet chuck in the work head for end mills on that of type grinder

Yes I am aware of that. I know mine has Collets with it, so I am assuming it comes with the Collet Chuck as well. The Collet Chuck though will only allows You to do the ends of the End Mills. What I want to be able to do is to Grind the End Mill Flutes (side of End Mill) as well like in the first Part of this Video [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIkpK30veGc"]YouTube - Darex E-90 End Mill Sharpener[/ame] .
I have been looking at these too (see Pictures). The Novatech Air Spindle (1st Pic), I would have to make somehow

as it is not affordable. The D-Bit End Mill attatchment (2nd Pic) is affordable though. I need to Research more. I was actually all set to make a Quorn, I just ordered all the Parts. Once I get My Tool and Cutter Grinder I will be Selling the Quorn Kit.

**old_fella** · 4th January 2011, 07:10 PM

Why would you want to grind the sides of the cutter unless you want to cut undersize?

Dave J · 4th January 2011, 07:24 PM

Stewart
You got a great buy their, once you get it and get up and running it will save you a heap and will always have sharp cutters on hand.

Originally Posted by old_fella

Why would you want to grind the sides of the cutter unless you want to cut undersize?

They get blunt and need sharpening as well. They would only cut under size if you where slotting to full width, but slotting comes out better if each side is done separate by using a smaller cutter than the slot.

Dave

**new_guy90** · 4th January 2011, 08:28 PM

we have one of those tool and cutter grinders at work i think its only ever been used once in the past year when i started it was covered in oil and crap i cleaned it all up once when i had nothing better to do i found it rather basic with a seemingly flimsy table and no protection no the slides from the harsh grinding dust made from normal use on the plus side i do like the design and with care of its should be the best alternative to the heaver cutter grinders on the used market

you got a good buy does it have the cabinet coolant tank and powered spindle?

**China** · 4th January 2011, 09:41 PM

If you want my opinion I would build the Quorn and sell the one you have.

**old_fella** · 5th January 2011, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Dave J

They get blunt and need sharpening as well. They would only cut under size if you where slotting to full width, but slotting comes out better if each side is done separate by using a smaller cutter than the slot.

Dave

I seem to get a better finish on the sides cutting keyways in one pass with the correct size cutter for the key than doing it in in a couple of pass's with a smaller diameter one.

**GDD** · 5th January 2011, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by China

If you want my opinion I would build the Quorn and sell the one you have.

If you want my opinion, its the opposite of China's.

I have built a quorn. It was a great project and I'm glad I did it, but I almost never use it now because its so much trouble to set it up for anything.

Graham

**China** · 5th January 2011, 10:29 PM

GDD, that maybe so, I was not going to say this so as not to offend steran50, but those chinese things are rubbish with apologies to steran50

**Stustoys** · 5th January 2011, 10:55 PM

Hi China
What makes you so sure its Chinese? I would have guess Taiwanese.
Are the quorn castings still available? I had a bit of a google and I could find them.
Stuart

**Anorak Bob** · 5th January 2011, 11:15 PM

Stuart,

If you meant couldn't find them, Hobby Mechanics in Brisbane sell the casting kits for the Quorn-

Quorn Universal Tool and Cutter Grinder

Bob.

**Stustoys** · 5th January 2011, 11:34 PM

Indeed I did Bob. guess it has to stay there now lol
"set" I googled "kit" because thats what comes up when you enter Quorn grinder"

Thanks
Stuart

**Woodlee** · 5th January 2011, 11:40 PM

Herless was pretty good stuff , I had a small radial arm drill and a 9" swing bench lathe that was in a workshop that I worked in a few years back .It was made in Taiwan ,and sold by Herless Machine tool co here in Australia .
Herless was bought out by ,you guessed it,,,,,, H&F.

There is still a herless mill drill at the base where I work now ,and it gets used fairly frequently and is still in good condition.

Kev.

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