Thread: Varnamo Shaper

WOW
What a bargain, hope you have fun with these machines and im sure you will
Thank god the hotels have computers or else i would be missing out on so much stuff :/
Looking forward to a restoration
Good buy

Cooper

Hi All,
Thanks Cooper, it pays to help your sister sometimes, if she hadn't asked me to come with her to look at wood lathes, I wouldn't have gone to the auction..

After a week of planning, phone calls, and wild guesses as to the load carrying capacity of the ute, I decided that the capacity of the ute was around 1000kg and the shaper was probably somewhere close to 900-1100..

Loaded up with a forklift hire in Wangaratta early this morning, and here it is ready to hit the road...



That's two sets of 8mm (4000kg capacity) chains stopping it moving forward (under braking), one set of 8mm chain stopping it moving backward, and two 2500 kg straps stopping it bouncing around on bumps.

Hire forklift to load was $60, and unloading was $85, so I've at least doubled the original investment..


Home safe.. and a drink of WD40.. by way of welcome to your new home... me, I'll have a VB, purely to calm the nerves you understand..

Now where the hell do I put it...

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by Stustoys

I was thinking power lube system becuae I cant think what else the arrowed part if for.
Stuart

Hi Stuart,

It's a power point, European style 240V, I guess it's for a worklight?

Regards
Ray

Hi Ray,
Good news that its/shes home safe.
How did the ute feel? I know they are spring damn hard in the rear.
I think it looks good right were it is , but then Imight have a thing for shapers.

Great prices on the forklifts also!

Are you going to pull it to pieces or just give it a clean and some oil and fire it up?

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Hi Ray,
Are you going to pull it to pieces or just give it a clean and some oil and fire it up?
Stuart

Hi Stuart,

Ute was fine**, Tyres were the only thing that I as a little nervous about.. I put 40 psi in the tyres at the Servo in Glenrowan, and stopped 2 or 3 times to check the tyre temperatures, but no problems. The weight of the shaper dropped the ute by 3 or 4 inches, and we fiddled about tweaking the position on the tray and getting it centered so that it was sort of level... I reckon I had about 1-2 inches of travel left in the suspension, so it was a slow and careful trip.

I'm not planning on pulling it down, from what I've seen so far the condition seems ok, and I think I can get away with a cleanup, a bit of oil, and crank it up.

Regards
Ray

** Nissan Navara D22 3 liter turbo diesel, tough little ute...

Ray, a safe move is a good move. A safe, cheap move is brilliant. Are you sure you put enough chains on it?

Good to see it's home safe Ray. It looks like factory latter type motor on it, so maybe it's a ,more modern shaper than ours.
The only comment I would make on your set up would be to take the sides off next time so the chains could be pulled tight, instead of going over them.

You will be able to clean up some long surfaces now for next to nothing, instead of using the mill.

Dave

Thanks Bryan, I get a nervous about moving heavy stuff, especially when it's fragile like machinery.. the more chains the better..

Hi Dave, You are right, I would have better off without the sides, definitely something to keep in mind for the next move..


I've cleaned it up a bit and pulled the belt cover off so I can turn it over by hand, seems to turn smoothly enough, no clunks, and the head goes backwards and forwards (when I put it in gear).

I might hook up a VFD and turn it over at low speed to try and figure out the various controls.

Anything I should be particularly be looking for?

Regards
Ray

Edit: Dave, I think it's late 50's maybe early 60's Sunshine Tech bought a Varnamo EV3 in 1958 for 751 pounds, don't know what that would be worth today?

751 pounds, wow you have done you home work already.
I would pull the ram off and clean the ways, it doesn't take much to get it off but that is the main working part and if there is anything in their it could do damage strait up.

If you undo the ram adjuster and take out the gib it should lift strait off, this way you can give a clean, inspect the ways so you know what they are like, oil it up and then adjust the gibs properly so you know they are right.

Dave

Hi Ray,
Couple of things come to mind.
1. make sure the motor is running the right way, slow power stroke, quick return stroke. If you take the side cover off the sliding block that controls the stroke length should be at the top going out and the bottom on return(assuming its the same inside there as most shapers).
2. Make sure you have the auto feed set to feed on the back stroke. Depending on the tool you will only be ale to feed in one direction anyway, but if you try and change feed direction by simply turning the ratchet around it will feed on the power stroke unless you stop the machine and move the feed length arm(no idea what its real name is) to the other side of center.(I wonder how much this matters with the cuts we are ever likely to take.)

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Hi Ray,
move the feed length arm(no idea what its real name is) to the other side of center.

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

Hmm.. According to the manual, that's the "centrumtappen med handratten"... sorry wrong part "roterande kugghjuliet" I think.. no wrong again, I'll scan it..
Good tip on the rotation check, that was something I was wondering about.
There are video's on youtube with shapers running backwards, and the owners never knew.


Hi Dave,

I can't see what you mean, I'll post a picture and you can see if it makes any sense, the dovetail ways don't look too bad anyway.


Drained and flushed the gearbox, one more job done. So with a bit of luck might be ready for a bit of a test run later tonight, then if it all looks good I'll move it to it's final location.

Regards
Ray

I will wait for your picture, but the gib usually lifts out to take the ram off. I am just thinking it has been sitting for a while and would only take 1/2 hour to do.

Dave

Ray it's pretty important to verify there's plenty of clean oil getting to the ram ways and the main bearing. On mine you can only lift the ram a few inches, then you drive out a big pin from the short link. I guess that's a typical setup, since there has to be a short link. Though it could be attached in various ways. Lifting it may be enough to see the oil ports. What sort of lifting gear do you have? They can really hold on. Mine always needs a lot of lift (engine crane), then pops, which can be a bit alarming.

Hi Dave, Bryan I'll take some pictures and then get some advice.

Stuart, Meantime here's the operating instructions for feed adjustment, starting to make some sense... except for the bit about freezing asparagus?



Here's the google translate version..

"Table feed eight different feeds for the table. 3 Cross travel there and those connected by moving the spindle with hand wheel / one / more or less from the center of the rotating gear wheel /2 / series of measurements obtained for all sizes of shaping machine type EV s 0125 -1.00 mm with a step of 0125 mm between each measurement size


Supply to switch on and off by turning the knob / 3 / on the power rafters. This button raises and lowers the freezing asparagus bolt wheel / 4 / A rate of 90 raises the rafter bolt and disconnect the power supply, a rotation of 180 from its original position switches the feed direction from right to left feed

What the hell is a freezing asparagus bolt wheel...?

Regards
Ray