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    Default Vertical Shaper vs Horizontal

    Firstly, is there such a thing as a vertical shaper? What I saw and believe to be a vertical shaper had a short ram run on a cam, maybe it is something entirely different so please educate me.

    Other than the throw distance being much smaller, there fore the work envelope what other differences would their be?

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    I(and I think most others) call the vertical ones slotters. Which should keep you busy until someone that knows more turns up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    Firstly, is there such a thing as a vertical shaper? What I saw and believe to be a vertical shaper had a short ram run on a cam, maybe it is something entirely different so please educate me.

    Other than the throw distance being much smaller, there fore the work envelope what other differences would their be?

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    Hi Dale,

    No reason why a shaper couldn't be hung from the roof Slotters are a bit like vertical shapers.. On the other hand I've often heard shapers referred to as horizontal slotters.

    As far as differences, I'd think the clapper box would be a major difference.. that wouldn't work too well vertically.

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    I did notice that most photos of vertical shaper/slotters seem to have built in rotary tables. So I would guess they are good for doing splines.

    The one in the photo is a G.L.Sheraton, I know the Sheraton lathes were copies of the Southbend same as the Hercus. But can find no info on a Sheraton vertical shaper/slotter.

    Southbend produced a small horizontal one.



    I guess you could fit a rotary table on to table on this machine, but I am struggling to come up with many ideas where it would be overly useful. maybe cutting small gears and internal keyways but that's about the limit of my imagination. With such a short stroke length I can't see it doing much surfacing.
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    I'd be guessing and saying that it's maybe designed for small key ways (what you suggested) etc. The vertical arrangement makes it's footprint much smaller than a horizontal shaper.

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    I think of a vertical slotting machine as a shaper that is optimised for making slots, keyways, splines etc.
    It's easier to mount work flat on a table, when gravity is helping you, compared with an horizontal machine.

    When not surfacing, it's not necessary to have a clapper box, so you never see one on a slotter.

    I made a 5mm x 100mm long internal keyway recently, in an aluminium pulley.
    Just held it in my Douglas horizontal shaper's vice. Two cuts with a 3mm cutter, it worked first time, which was very pleasing.

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    Thanks for the info guys.

    RC that is a long document and quite a good one, thanks.
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