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6th March 2011, 02:44 PM #1.
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Vises - Never Too Many!
We had been discussing vises at the end of Ken's Glacern video post and I said I'd take a couple of shots of a little Eclipse Vee Vise that I picked up a few years ago.
While the tripod was out, I photographed a few more from my collection. The black vise is a Brown and Sharpe No.752 Toolmaker's vise. The little vise next to it is a Starrett No.160. It's a beater and comes in real handy for use with the disc sander.
The next two are 1 1/2" Palmgens from Chicago. The green version, a Model 120, has proven invaluable over the years. I've used it numerous times on the little Hercus mill and on the drill press. The angle vise is a Palmgren Model O with a jaw width of 2 1/2 inches. It's been great for milling gibs.
I'll post some photos of a few pages from the 1972 Palmgren catalogue. Back then their gear was US made. Now a lot of their range is made "offshore".
BT
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6th March 2011, 03:17 PM #2.
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They made a range of products including rotary tables.
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6th March 2011, 03:26 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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I'll take one of each
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6th March 2011, 03:51 PM #4Mechanical Butcher
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I have an old vertical slide for a lathe, with the same forked attachment point as shown here. I'd wondered how it were supposed to attach to a lathe. Who'd have thought to use a lantern toolpost? Thanks Bob!
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6th March 2011, 05:12 PM #5.
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Jordan,
Everede used a similar setup to mount their boring bar holder onto a tee slot compound slide. Engine and Turret
Might be o.k. on a bigger lathe than ours but there was too much slop around the lantern tool post on the Hercus.
I made a simple collar and tee nut and clamped the assembly together with a 1/2 inch cap screw. A touch more secure than the lantern t.p. version.
Bob.
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6th March 2011, 07:42 PM #6
Nice collection of vices Bob , the vee bottomed vice is particularly
neat set up .
Vices are like woodworking clamps ,you can never have too many
I picked up a very abused Dawn 4" engineers vice for free that is set to be refurbished at a later date , beauty of these is that parts are still available.
The boring bar holder is a good idea ,G H Thomas designed a similar one using the eccentric bush to adjust the bar.
Kev"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend ,inside a dog it's too dark to read"
Groucho Marx
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6th March 2011, 08:27 PM #7.
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" The boring bar holder is a good idea ,G H Thomas designed a similar one using the eccentric bush to adjust the bar "
I'm a lazy bastard Kev,
I'll buy something before I'll make it. That Everede works beautifully and cost me about 50 bucks US on Ebay.
Talking more about vises. Years ago, before I had any proper metalworking gear, I was given a 6 inch English "Perfect" quick release engineer's vise. It was missing the jaw plates and had been used without them for some time. You can visualize the mess. Now, it would be a piece of to fix, then, I gave it away. I ended up buying the vise below about 16 years ago. Not edited photos, there's s..t in the background !
I'm always amazed by the number of blokes that don't have a bench vise. To me, it would be like having only one hand.
BT
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6th March 2011, 08:43 PM #8New Member
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Hi Bob
Great collection of vices , as you say you can never have too many
I really like how versatile the Eclipse Vee Vise is ,,,,,,looks a handy bit of tooling to have
Rob
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7th March 2011, 12:06 AM #9Dave J Guest
Hi Bob,
You have some nice vises their and I like the boring bar holder. I agree with you about a bench vise being needed, I wouldn't be without one. I am still kicking myself for getting rid of a old heavy 8 inch off set vise 25 years ago because I was mainly into wood work then and had a good 6 inch. Little did I know then, it was only a few years after that my main interests changed to machining and metal work (and empty pockets.lol).
Rob, good to see you have joined up here, welcome.
I hope you don't mind, but I have given link's for our members to see some of your work in your introduction.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f175/hi-all-132099/
Over the last year I have posted up a few photo's of your work on here for Bob and others, and we all agree you do some really great work.
For anyone interested in having a look at some amazing work here are some other links.
Post 9
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f189/t...hercus-125765/
Post 20
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/us...35/index2.html
Post 4
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/sl...ttempt-129495/
Post 12
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/qu...plates-129460/
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https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/do...07/index2.html
I hope you post some of your future projects here.
Dave
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7th March 2011, 08:17 AM #10
Dave, thanks for some interesting links there.
As a matter of interest, if you want to link to a specific post in a thread, you can click on the post number, then copy the address from the address bar.
Like this
Regarding vises, I have just come back from Adelaide and picked up one of the ozmestore 63mm machine vises. Very impressed with the quality of that little vise, haven't used it yet though.
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7th March 2011, 12:22 PM #11.
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Hello Rob,
The Vee Vise has a feature that I don't understand. The catalogue description states "the larger sliding jaw, which has horizontal and vertical grooves to ensure a firm grip of round material, also houses two ground parallels, which enable holes to be drilled without risk of damage to drill or vise." The parallel feature has me stumped. Any idea?
Here are some more photos.
Bob.
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7th March 2011, 05:45 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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You rest the work piece on the parallels instead of resting it on the bottom of the vice. That way there is a gap between the work piece and the vice so you know to stop drilling????
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7th March 2011, 05:58 PM #13.
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Stuart,
I had not thought of them as a pair of little parallels you place under the workpiece. It's a wonder they are still in the vise.
Bob.
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7th March 2011, 07:27 PM #14
I like making stuff , but will also buy if I need it in a quick time to complete a project .
Vices are a thing that I like to have a few of , I have a 6" swivelling , a record 10mm vice and a small cheapie I've had for years , but has been reworked and has brass jaws .
I have a waldown drill vice and another cheap drill vice I picked up from glenfords .
I also have a toolmakers vice I made after if finished my apprenticship , but to this day is not finished ( like 40 years ) .
Currently I have plans to build one of those two piece milling vices that just bolt to the table to hold larger pieces.
then there is the old abused 4" dawn that will be getting resurected.
I'm starting to ogle your Vee vice , I like it very much ,Vices and vee blocks I have a facination for , that vee vice has double the attraction to me.
Kev."Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend ,inside a dog it's too dark to read"
Groucho Marx
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