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    Default Another Waldown Brought Back to Life (I Hope)

    On the weekend we made a trip to Adelaide to catch up with the family post vintage. I finally picked up the Waldon (?) Drill Press I won in an EBay auction. The bidding was brisk. Well, the one bid was brisk anyway.

    It is my impression that this drill consists of a Waldon Head attached to the rest of a drill press of a different type. The head is a different tone of green to the rest and there is a machined adaptor sleeve at the top of the column. The drill was advertised as a Pedestal Drill, but I think it is a bench top drill press, which is now taller because of the adaptor sleeve.

    Comments and suggestions are welcome.

    Drill Press as I received it except the motor has been removed.
    That awful belt guard and brackets have been removed. It appears to be a Waldon No. 1.
    The Column Adaptor in Situ.
    The same with the head removed
    The Adaptor sitting upside down next to the column. The column measures 79.95mm diameter while the diameter of the top of the adaptor measures 63.46mm.

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    The feed handle showing the mismatched knobs and the lack of a locking nut. Advice required about this nut.
    The bits from the feed shaft ends.
    A broken piece of the cast. I presume this is part of the stop mechanism?
    On the spring side this piece of steel was hammered in like a wedge!!!!
    A close up of the spring end of the feed shaft.
    The table lift handle seems to be home made.

    Handle.jpgQuill Handle and Spring Parts.jpgQuill Handle With Broken Stop Casting.jpgSpring Cover.jpgSpring Housing.jpgTable Raising Handle.jpg

    The down feed gear(?) has a tooth broken off.
    Another close up of the spring end of the feed shaft.
    The feed handle keyways? Two? There seems to be some wear on the inside one.
    The spindle tube(?) after the pulley was removed. The pulley is cracked on the outside face of the largest diameter. I think it would be best to turn this down so it cannot fly off at speed. I have just received the VFD to run this drill. I should be able to do without the top speed from the pulley's.





    Down Feed Gear Teeth.jpgDown Feed Shaft Close Up Spring End.jpgDown Feed Shaft Handle Keyways.jpgSpindle Tube.jpg

    The motor is 0.5Hp, 3 Ph 1440rpm. I still need to have a look inside to see that I have no idea what I am looking at. The bearings are not very good.

    That is all for now. I need to clean up some of these parts and have a better look at them.

    I need some help to point me in the right direction.

    I also have no idea how the spring end of the feed shaft should look. Something is missing here.

    Dean

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    Dean, looks like you got a roughie. I hope the price was right. It's quite similar to mine at the business end. I think you're right it's a hybrid. Are those grey knobs lead by any chance? My Tough has lead knobs. There should be a circlip retaining the spring barrel. The travel stop on mine looks home made so may not relate. These are some pics I had on file. I could take some more but very busy so can't say when.

    PS: The uploader choked, will try later.

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    What Bryan said.

    In for a penny, in for a pound...
    If you send me a sketch of the shaft with the broken tooth I can make another one of those up for you. The rest is probably just working through the issues and fixing things. Now you have the lathe running it will be easy...

    I have a 3m but some of the bits will be the same so I'll take some photos too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Dean, looks like you got a roughie. I hope the price was right. It's quite similar to mine at the business end. I think you're right it's a hybrid. Are those grey knobs lead by any chance? My Tough has lead knobs. There should be a circlip retaining the spring barrel. The travel stop on mine looks home made so may not relate. These are some pics I had on file. I could take some more but very busy so can't say when.

    PS: The uploader choked, will try later.
    It is a bit of a a roughie, but I am hoping it will turn into a gem. One thing that I need to do is to check for squareness to the table (Tram). The adaptor sleeve appears to be fairly well machined, so I am hoping it has not shifted the head angle too much.

    Did you take any notice of the table? Unfortunately the only picture showing the table was not focussed on it. I will get another picture today. It must be one of the best tables I have seen on a second hand drill press.

    I am pretty sure the grey knobs are aluminium. I would not like to have lead knobs. I probably have more than enough lead in my body already. I will replace the knobs with a matched set if I can.

    Circlip? I was afraid of that, but with a lathe, it is not such a problem.

    I had a lot of trouble using the uploader last night for these pictures. Nothing seemed to work like it should. I hope this problem is resolved. It was very frustrating. We had had a stressful day already with a rush to the vet for the "supervisor" golden border collie who my wife let into a room with rat baits while she was putting stuff in there. Don't mention it to her tho. She felt absolutely terrible about a momentary lapse. It appeared that no baits were consumed, as none were regurgitated. Precautionary treatment, then a blood test in 2 weeks.

    We then had to rush home, picking up a stock trailer on the way, so we could separate out cattle for sale. This was followed by 2 trips to deliver them to the sale yards. We now have less than half left, so the grass will be pleased. There will only be one pair of eyes watching every blade come up instead of two. The sheep will be culled soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    What Bryan said.

    In for a penny, in for a pound...
    If you send me a sketch of the shaft with the broken tooth I can make another one of those up for you. The rest is probably just working through the issues and fixing things. Now you have the lathe running it will be easy...

    I have a 3m but some of the bits will be the same so I'll take some photos too.

    Michael
    I have just realised I spelt Waldown wrong.

    I had not thought of making a new shaft. It is something to think about. I did operate the feed yesterday while trying to remove the shaft and I did not notice anything wrong with the movement, but I was not looking specifically. Thanks for the offer Michael.

    The rest is probably just working through the issues and fixing things.

    Spot on. As this is the first "Waldown" that I have had a real close look at, some pictures will be of great assistance to help me work out what to do. I will look for threads on the forum and the web in general. I am looking forward to it.

    All the Waldown drills I have seen have square tables. I think I prefer round ones, but then that is all I have ever had.

    Dean

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    Default China Table

    I would bet on the fact that the Waldown head was grafted to a China table column foot etc Even so you need to be a gorilla to bust out the casting / stop on one o the waldown heads All parts are still available from Waldown itself Bruce

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bruce View Post
    I would bet on the fact that the Waldown head was grafted to a China table column foot etc Even so you need to be a gorilla to bust out the casting / stop on one o the waldown heads All parts are still available from Waldown itself Bruce
    Not for my little hispeed waldown they are'nt


    I look for ward to seeing your progress on this Dean...Just dont make it too pretty, I dont want it to inspire to strip mine apart and paint it to match keep up with yours and Joes

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    Not for my little hispeed waldown they are'nt


    I look for ward to seeing your progress on this Dean...Just dont make it too pretty, I dont want it to inspire to strip mine apart and paint it to match keep up with yours and Joes
    Damn! Another good plan gone west. And I still have plenty of "Dance Studio" Blue. I have been looking at Ray's rebuild of his 8SN as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldneweng View Post
    Damn! Another good plan gone west. And I still have plenty of "Dance Studio" Blue. I have been looking at Ray's rebuild of his 8SN as well.

    Dean
    apparently they tossed all spare parts for the hi speed ones a couple years back (so they said).. I dont know whats available for these ones tho?

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    Not much done on the drill today. Spent most of the day on the lathe.

    A couple of pictures. The uploader seems to be working better today. Maybe it was all those birthday celebrations that caused the problem last night. Selfies etc.

    Locking lever for the table support.
    Cleaned up view of the spindle gear and rack.
    Underneath view of the table support.
    The table with the damaged sections circled in red.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bruce View Post
    I would bet on the fact that the Waldown head was grafted to a China table column foot etc Even so you need to be a gorilla to bust out the casting / stop on one o the waldown heads All parts are still available from Waldown itself Bruce
    I may be wrong, but it does not have that Chinese look.

    The 3M is the only drill listed on the Brobo site. Is there anywhere else information can be obtained?

    Dean

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    Some pics as promised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldneweng View Post
    I had similar damage on a lathe once. It had been given a shock load, so I'd suggest that this one may have been knocked over.

    Michael

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    Default Ring Brobo

    Dean Ring the spare parts at Brobo group the spindle and shaft are all still available for the 3m besides my unit is a mix match of waldown types and they all fitted together beautifully old spindle and mt 2 shaft etc in a new head casting i will post piccies of mine its basically a workman / 3m current castings fitted with old bits that where gathered up over time

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    I have been looking at Ray's rebuild of his 8SN as well.

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    Where is this taking place....is Ray giving us pics etc?

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