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  1. #16
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    Joe,
    If you cannot get a spring which fits your drill consider that some drills put the spring in a separate external container which locates in a recess in the drill head. This system allows the container to be rotated to wind the spring up. It also allows for fine adjustment of the system.
    If you need to go this way I can put up more details.
    Mm.

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    Thanks Metalman. I have found detailed potos of the part you describe and actually wondered if it might be worth considering a modification.
    I have found the 3M springs listed on the Brobo site and have contacted them for availability and price.
    Joe

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    The Tough uses this system and I like it. If you're smart you can remove and install the spring and pinion with the spring still contained in its wee house. It's a vast improvement over the "sproing #### !' method. OTOH, how often will you be pulling it apart?

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    From memory I installed a far eastern spring in my Tough. The original was broken and some previous owner had rigged up a coil spring from the pulley guard to the quill. Worked but stylelessly.

    The wrestling with the Waldown spring should be a one time occurrence.

    BT

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    Got a quote and availability from Brobo today: $72 for the spring and $18 postage......
    A trip to the recycling yard got me a lawnmower recoil starter with the right sized spring in it for $3.... I've experimented with rewinding it for a little while today and can see that it will work out. I'll do the cleaning and repainting first, then istall the sping. I intend to do it only once
    Joe

    PS: Servian thread started.

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    Got a quote and availability form Brobo today: $72 for the spring and $18 postage......

    FFS they have to be joking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Got a quote and availability form Brobo today: $72 for the spring and $18 postage......
    lol that reminds me of my $50 hercus. Got it home and the belt broke. Replacement $60. Nice score on the $3 spring!

    Stuart

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    Yeah thanks for that Stu.... I only recently managed to deal with the jealousy I had harboured concerning that purchase of yours. Now it's fresh in my mind again.


    By the way, have you established a daily hire out rate for the kamera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    By the way, have you established a daily hire out rate for the kamera?
    lol Careful BT or I might just tell you what I paid for Kamera! Same for you as for Greg, just supply your own film.
    Stuart

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    Default Back at it!

    The garden shed Waldown had remained untouched because I thought that I had sold it. The prospective purchaser's desire waned because of more pressing matters ....then when I was in Melbourne with Greg visiting his mate Michael, the mate with a brace of Rivett 608s, I found two items that rekindled my interest in the Waldown. Outside of Michaels's workshop was a table and base for an 8SN, parts from a couple of Waldown drills purchased a while back. The table whilst rusty, appeared to be in reasonable condition with only a pair of holes unlike the more commonly encountered chain drilled affair. The table's unpainted surfaces were rusty but should clean up ok. I bought it. Then it turned out there was a motor pulley that had suffered damage while being removed from the motor. The table is still in Melbourne with GQ but the pulley accompanied me home.

    I had a small piece of left over cast aluminium pulley I purchased a few years ago to make a guard for my TPG switch so I turned the outer section of the vee along with a spigot to suit a counterbored hole in the main pulley body. Primed and Loctited the pieces together.

    The GS Waldown's original CMG motor is mounted on the 3M. I have a GMF Cadet 1/2 hp split phase (?) motor which is what I will use on the GS drill. I was under the misapprehension that these motors shared the same standard frame size and hence the same baseplate mounting hole locations. They don't but what is neat about the GMF is that the baseplate can be repositioned, albeit with on two of the four screws securing it. With the repositioned plate and the pulley mounted a bit further outboard on the motor shaft I should be able to align the pulleys.

    The motor needs to be cleaned, rebearinged and painted. At present it is full of sawdust. A cheap Ebay purchase with not so cheap postage from Sydney.

    A couple of questions for Ray. What belt sizes do you have on your 8SN and do your motor mount guide rails have holes in them for grub screw locations? I imagine not.

    When I was in Melbourne, I also visited the home of another forum member, Matty " L.S.Barker1970 ". Matty has an older 8SN. It has a cast iron motor and switch mount and a different anodised name tag. These little machines certainly underwent a number of transformations during their production life. I like the old ones.

    BT

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    Default Matty's 8SN

    A few snapshots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    A couple of questions for Ray. What belt sizes do you have on your 8SN and do your motor mount guide rails have holes in them for grub screw locations? I imagine not.

    BT
    Hi BT,

    There are locking bolts on the motor mounts on the top of the casting, you can just see them from this angle, and the adjustment locking bolts on the side..


    This the belt I'm using.


    Sorry for the blurry pictures, The pulley cluster is a standard niloc stock item, I think it was $20-30 for a new pulley cluster.. ( if my memory serves )

    Regards
    Ray

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    Thanks Ray,

    I guess if I had looked I would have seen that your drill is a 4 speed single belt model. Both the 3M and the Garden Shed have intermediate pulleys. The 3m's are 32" and 27" but the front belt is too large for the GS. I can work out the length with a section of link belt I have.

    I will most probably remake the two arms given the mutilation on mine.

    BT

    Edit .The motor pulley has an extended hub. When I purchased the 3M the original motor pulley was absent. It had been replaced with a single groove pulley. I searched fruitlessly for an over the counter alternative. Waldown's over the counter price was stiff in the extreme. I ended up buying the GS as a source of both pulley and motor so when Michael offered me the broken pulley, I jumped at it.

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    Bob... that is a really nice lathe. From your posts it is evident that there is a level of perfection that a thinking man, such as myself, can only aspire to at this point in time.

    The state of perfection is something like Hunter S Thompson's 'edge'.... no-one knows where it is until they have crossed over.

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    I have picked up a Waldown drill myself recently, not as bad as the original example, but still has the tell-tale signs of use by retards.

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