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26th October 2011, 12:43 AM #1.
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Waldrich Coburg Open Sided Planer
This thing of beauty is amongst the machinery on display at the Deutsches Museum in Munich. It was manufactured in 1954 and is in wonderful condition. I think that most of the machines that comprise the modern self powered part of the collection are frequently demonstrated in use.
There is a reconstructed period workshop with overhead countershaft pulleys and poor lighting as would befit a pre electic machine shop. This shop contains numerous machines dating from as early as the mid nineteenth century. Sadly, there is no overhead line shafting so these machines remain as static displays. The lack of illumination prevented taking worthwhile photos.
The planer pictured below has a bed length of about 4 metres and a table length of roughly 1500mm.
BT
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26th October 2011, 02:06 AM #2Dave J Guest
Nice pictures Bob,and nice machine.
I could see that in my shed.
Dave
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26th October 2011, 07:54 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Hydraulic table drive as well by the look of it. Would be fairly quiet I'd think.
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26th October 2011, 09:51 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Open Side Planer
Bob
A beautiful machine.
There is something great about that era, the machines have a real quality & style about them.
The scraped slides..... are truly a joy to behold !
It was also interesting to note the goose neck cutting tool in the clapper box of the toolhead. I can recall these were designed that way so as to provide a little "give or spring" & minimise dig ins whilst cutting.
Yes I reckon I could squeeze it into my workshop, no immediate use for it, but it "could come in handy one day". It would be just good to drool over it.
Thanks & enjoy your trip.
regards
Bruce
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26th October 2011, 10:41 AM #5Distracted Member
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Nice pics and interesting machine. Looks in exceptional condition. Could still do very useful work. I believe planers are still used, except now they have milling heads and are called planer-mills. You could easily pop a spindle or two on that machine.
Bollie7, I've seen a vid of a Rockford hydraulic shaper and it actually makes quite a loud, annoying whine. A youtube search would find it.
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26th October 2011, 03:31 PM #6Pink 10EE owner
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I could find room for that in my shed.... It is about the size I want...
Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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26th October 2011, 05:03 PM #7.
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I knew you blokes would like it. I wished I had been able to see it in action. All the newer machines have evidence of careful use. There is a Weiler lathe along with a Weiler CNC lathe and a capstan. On my second day of photographing the machines, on of the guards started the first of these lathes. He used it to polish the back of a watch case by holding a small polishing mop in the 4 jaw chuck. He had the spindle running at 2500 rpm. Made a bit of noise making me more comfortable with the noise my Schaublin makes.
I had a fiddle with the cross and compound slides when the guard took off and was very impressed with the silky smooth action. I imagine the lathe dates from the fifties, the saddle and tailstock were locked in place to prevent tampering and unfortunately obscured the serial number and maybe the date of manufacture. I will post some photos of this and the other machines.
BT
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26th October 2011, 08:29 PM #8
its always a pleasure to read your threads Bob
happy turning
Patrick
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27th October 2011, 06:08 AM #9.
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Thank you Patrick.
Here are some more machines in the collection. First up is a Hurth mill.
BT.
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27th October 2011, 06:43 AM #10.
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The famed Deckel FP1
The manual Y traverse on this machine was wonderfully light. I had good fortune to see one of these in the flesh a few months ago and at the time I was struck by the smoothness of feed derived from the handwheel rotation. I'm starting to think that the Y axis gibs on my 13 may be too tight. The Schaublin horizontal spindle head casting is larger and heavier than that on the German mill which may contibute to the tighter feel. Something to investigate on my return. Another nice touch on the Deckel is rear located handwheel that facilitates manual spindle rotation. And that tray at the back would come in handy.
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27th October 2011, 09:15 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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Deckel Mill
Bob
Thanks for the photos.
I was fortunate to have used one of these mills, for machining out Heine Die Sets.
They are indeed a wonderful machine, & everything on them & their design, feels right.
Do these come up for sale ?
Perhaps an offer could be made on the one you photographed in the museum.
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Bruce
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27th October 2011, 09:29 AM #12Distracted Member
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Thanks for the Europorn Bob. The Husky Hurth and the Dainty Deckel. One of each should cover most situations. It looks like the Hurth has a head with its own x axis. Is that right? I wonder what the advantage of that is?
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27th October 2011, 02:01 PM #13
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the pictures, I like the FP1, I could see that in my workshop. It would be interesting to see if anything remains of Friedrich Deckel's factory at Plinganserstrasse 150.. Somewhere near central Munich according to google maps
Hope you are having a great time. Keep the pictures coming.
Regards
Ray
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27th October 2011, 11:53 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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Hi BT,
Got any more info on the picture on the wall in this picture? thats some big mill he is standing next to(that is a guy standing there right?)
https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...062-large-.jpg
Edit(Bryan asked already and I missed it)
Thanks for the pictures
StuartLast edited by Stustoys; 27th October 2011 at 11:54 PM. Reason: edit
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28th October 2011, 04:46 AM #15.
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Sorry Stu,
I didn't photograph the artwork on the wall. Looks like something that a firm like Waldrich would have made. Remember the Waldrich Siegen factory photos I posted l while back?
BT
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