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11th May 2013, 01:28 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Welding visors
Been doing a lot of arc (stick) welding lately, and lots more to come.
Wondering how many members used the fancy self darkening helmets?
I still use the old flip down CIG and can't see myself changing.
Bro in law still uses hand held LOL, he will never change.
I suppose if it works for you then why bother.
Rob
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11th May 2013, 01:37 PM #2
I love mine, got a cheapy & it work just great.
Only problem I have is that mine has an open back & the light coming in behind me tends to light up the inside of the helmet & that makes it a bit hard to see.
I need some sort of a burn proof curtain around the back of it, something that won't catch fire from spatter.Cliff.
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11th May 2013, 01:43 PM #3Senior Member
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We use the auto ones at school. Its worth paying the extra coin to get one with adjustments for darkness and sensitivity, it will make it a lot more useable for other jobs. Ours wernt that dear, $80 bucks or so iirc.
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11th May 2013, 01:43 PM #4Senior Member
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Hi Rob, I use one of the new auto darkening welding helmets and they are terrific. The best part is you don't have to worry about the risk of getting a welding flash and as we all know they are bloody painful.
The new ones on the market today have a cutting and grinding option built into the helmet; which makes life very easy when it comes to cutting, grinding and welding you don't have to remove the helmet at all. The cost of these helmets was very high when I bought my first one ($500.00) but now they are only $100.00 to $200.00 ; I would recommend any one doing any type of welding to buy one, it's so much easier on the eyes.
Cheers Alby
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11th May 2013, 01:44 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Rob,
Now I havent used one with a stick. Only MIG(MGAW for the politically correct)
Do yourself a favour, buy one!!!!*
I was like you. Got one for a birthday present. They are pretty damn good. Sure you dont NEED one but boy do they make life easier(like a dro on a mill)
I have a cheap one and a Miller. I had to break the cheap on apart after a couple of years to replace the batteries(there is a post on it somewhere, for $60 I guess a lot wouldnt bother). I think the cheap one is as good or better than the Miller except when doing strange out of position welding. The Miller has 4 sensors the cheap one only 2, so the Miller is less likely to have the sensors in a shadow and not fire the lens.
Stuart
*Unless all your welding is done on a bench, if you were doing a lot of high amp bench work a gold filter might still be the way to go.
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11th May 2013, 01:45 PM #6Member
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11th May 2013, 01:46 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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G/day Rob, I'm on my 4th auto darkening mask, the Bunnings one's are crappola, I had 2 of them.
also I had a $400 one that didn't bounce to well when it fell orf me noggen from about 10 mtrs up, now I have a $120 WIA one and it works fine.
I still use the non darkening helmet in difficult situations where the sensor can get shaded by obstacles, pain that, because at first you don't realize it hasn't darkened
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11th May 2013, 01:47 PM #8Dave J Guest
I got a cheap one around 20 years ago and it's still going, but does need new protective lenses. It the variable model from shade 9-13, I would recommend you get the same not the fixed model. They are a little more expensive but are a lot better because you can change the shade to suit the job by the turn of a knob, I do it while welding to get the best view.
It changes welding for the better.
Dave
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11th May 2013, 02:03 PM #9future machinist
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I use both types of welding helmet I have a cheap cigweld auto darkening helmet it cost $140 and is fantastic although I find I can see the puddle better with my old flip down helmet though. At work we use a speedglas Auto darkening helmet and they are great helmet but cost around $700 I believe
BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE
Andre
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11th May 2013, 02:04 PM #10
I vote for the auto-darkening helmets as well, I wouldn't use anything else now, I have a Speedglas 9100XX and the convenience of being able to switch from shade 5 for gas welding through to 10 for MIG and 11/12 for TIG with the one helmet is great. Mine allows me to adjust the sensitivity and delay of the screen which is handy in some circumstances as well.
It wasn't cheap but it will see me out I suspect.
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11th May 2013, 02:08 PM #11Dave J Guest
Gavin has a point there, I only have mig and stick so 9-13 is fine, but if you using tig or gas you might need to look a little harder to get one that does it all.
Dave
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11th May 2013, 02:21 PM #12Intermediate Member
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Welding visors
Hi
I have a 4 sensor Miller and my old Jackson gold screen. Auto is great but sometimes is good to have a spare. Bought the miller in USA many years back and theory was only one set of eyes so buy a good one.
These days i think some of the cheap ones are very good.
James
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11th May 2013, 02:49 PM #13
I bought a $50 aldi one when saw it in store. It has adjustable sensitivity and shading 9-13. The batteries are easy to replace and are just AAA rechargeables. It has 2 sensors. I love it but I agree with Andre, the old mask was a bit easier to see the pool through.
Cheers
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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11th May 2013, 03:14 PM #14
Hi Rob,
I remember some who said just what you said, oh,thats right,it was me.
Firstly. Arc striking and tacking up is easier by a BIG margin.
Holding the fiddily rrsed bit of stuff with one hand and flicking the helmet down and bugger,the arc strikes all over exact section you expressly wanted to avoid striking on.
Probably not so hard for the blokes who have had the flip down downs for mega years and the big technical advantage for us was the gold tinted lense (real gold too)
When I tried the cheapy Techmen around ($70 when I got mine) available through Bummings I become a convert.As you get older ,its about life becoming easier.
And so it was when welding.Then I got my inverter welder. Auto helmet and inverter welder= bliss.
Yes there are mobs of crappy ones out there. Buy a known brand and you should not go too far wrong.
Yes I can go back if needs be,But with:
Miller elite -bloody ugly thing with skulls painted on it-nearly took it back.
Speedglas 9000
earlier model Speedglas
WIA adjustable model
2 techmens
Why would I?
Grahame
Main advantages
- Easier strike,
- Easier tack up
- Adjustable lens darkness in quality models
Disadvantages
- Higher purchase price
- Battery changes in some
- Too easy to buy cheap nasty model
- Care needed with electronics
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11th May 2013, 04:06 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Looks like I'm dealing with a bunch of converts here
I thought I might not be the ONLY bloke using the old style....sheeesh....I'm more backward than I thought !
Might have to look into this some more.
I do like the obvious advantage of being able to hold the job with one hand and the stick with the other, with the auto helmets.
Maybe get one, one day.
Rob
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