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    Default Many thanks

    BT. That's great, many thanks for your time. I'm off to my nearest Dulux Trade Centre in the hope I can buy a small tin of Carmine Red RAL 3002.

    I'm a little suprized, I seem to remember the red being brighter than Crimson.

    Doubt I'll be painting today, it's far too hot, near 40.

    The green I chose is Dulux Quit Rust Green Freeze OCH. Would like to know the nearest RAL colour number for future reference.

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    Default Good news and bad news

    This arvo I visited my local Dulux Trade Centre. They could not match the Carmine Red RAL 3002 paint, it's not on their computer system. In fact, they have very few RAL colour numbers on their system. Couldn't even show me the colour.

    Had more luck with the existing tin of Dulux Quit Rust Green Freeze paint. The bloke behind the jump ripped the lid off, removed all traces of skin, and declared the half litre left is perfect.

    Just have to get the red paint sorted, and I'm back in business.

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by neksmerj View Post
    This arvo I visited my local Dulux Trade Centre. They could not match the Carmine Red RAL 3002 paint, it's not on their computer system. In fact, they have very few RAL colour numbers on their system. Couldn't even show me the colour.

    Had more luck with the existing tin of Dulux Quit Rust Green Freeze paint. The bloke behind the jump ripped the lid off, removed all traces of skin, and declared the half litre left is perfect.

    Just have to get the red paint sorted, and I'm back in business.

    Ken
    OK KJ.

    Try Dulux RED BOX P04 H9 The closest Dulux has to the Carmine Red in their Colour Specifier Atlas (Series 2).

    Hope this helps.

    BT

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    Quote Originally Posted by neksmerj View Post
    This arvo I visited my local Dulux Trade Centre. They could not match the Carmine Red RAL 3002 paint, it's not on their computer system. In fact, they have very few RAL colour numbers on their system. Couldn't even show me the colour.

    Had more luck with the existing tin of Dulux Quit Rust Green Freeze paint. The bloke behind the jump ripped the lid off, removed all traces of skin, and declared the half litre left is perfect.

    Just have to get the red paint sorted, and I'm back in business.

    Ken
    Good to hear that tin of paint is ok. I think the title of this thread is no longer representative of efforts. It is good to read about the techniques used and see the results. I dont think I will be doing my new lathe tho. At 1.5 tonne or so for the whole lathe I don't want to risk that to the large and beautiful gum tree just outside my shed. It was this beauty that sealed the deal on buying our little bit of paradise.

    That ball turner is a real inspiration BobL. One of the things I must make. Mind you, I am looking for milling projects as I hope to have my new mill home Saturday night. I just need to make up a frame which will be turned into a cabinet, make some room in my shed and I will be in action. The lathe will take a bit longer to arrange. Still got the old one I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropetangler View Post
    the graphite slip cloth that Stuart has volunteered to try out sounds well worth the time and effort to try.
    Well that didnt work very well.
    Got a 15 litre bucket, a rotor and a piece of graphite slip cloth 290 x 150mm.
    Added about 4 tablespoons of dishwasher powder.
    Not a lot of action
    Added 3 tablespoons of bi-carb
    Still no a lot of action, amp gauge just moving and a thin wall of bubbles coming off the rotor.
    Replace the slip cloth with a piece of 2mm MS 65mm square, current up to 5amps and cooking nicely.
    So while if tested with a multi meter the cloth seems to conduct very well, it doesnt do so well when you want to pass some current through it...DMM getting me in trouble again.
    I'd say about 30% the graphite has come off the cloth.

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    Default An interesting experiment

    Thanks Stu,

    Graphite cloth seemed a good concept, a pity it didn't work. Looks like ms is the go for electrodes.

    Ken

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    Thanks for the test Stu, bit of a bummer but it was worth a shot.
    I have wondered though if carbon fiber would work.......
    1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.

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    Default What a dill I am

    Finally got around to doing some painting today.

    Problem 1. Couldn't find my small touch up spray gun, it's just disappeared.
    Problem 2. Had to resort to my Paasch airbrush.
    Problem 3. Could not get the airbrush to put out paint consistently, had to continually keep adjusting the nozzle.
    Problem 4. After washing out the airbrush, realised I'd left both lathe feet inside the house, undercoated, ready for paint.

    I'm just putting all this down to old age and stupidity, and hope it doesn't get worse.

    A couple more bad, bad pics. The true colour is somewhere in between the two pictures.

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    Where is the lathe going when it's reassembled Ken? The neighbour's carport again or did you build that shed you drew up a year or so ago.?

    The colour looks the part.

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    Default Red paint for inside lathe bed

    Firstly BT asks, "where's the lathe going when it's finished". Ans, in the lounge room until I get a shed organised.

    BT gave me some colours for the red paint inside the Hercus bed. Dulux Crimson R15, Dulux Red Box po4 H9, and RAL 3002 Carmine Red.

    Off to get a small tin of Dulux Crimson R15, full gloss, oil based. Problem. The smallest tin was 1litre and priced at over $50, Ouch!

    They suggested trying other paint outlets for smaller tins, but to no avail. Min size 1 litre, all over $50.

    As a last resort, I went to my local Mitre ten. Same story, however, I was shown a spray tin of Wattyl Kill Rust Epoxy Gloss Enamel, colour Delicious Red. Perfect, especially the $13 price tag. I was initially looking for paint to apply with a brush, but with a bit of judicious masking, I'll get away with a spray can.

    Just need to wait for the right weather conditions.

    Ken

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    Well, the lounge won't be too crowded now since you've misplaced the Arboga.

    What's happening with all the other bits, the saddle and tailstock, the belt guards, motor etc? Were they part of the initial refurb way back?

    So we can all appreciate the quality of the restoration*, why don't you put your name down to borrow the Melbourne loan camera. The phone camera photos have a Ben Cropp feel to them.

    BT

    * KJ posted a number of studio quality photos of his freshly painted and polished Hercus countershaft assembly on PM a number of years ago. They and the work were impressive.

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    Default What's left to restore?

    BT, all components are restored except the guards (one is broken and needs some fibre glass repairs). I'm sure I've posted some pics of the apron in a post concerning the clutch.

    Can't find the post.

    After that is the cabinet. That needs some extensive repairs including a new middle shelf. Someone at the Tech school cut the front lip off to fit a sliding drawer, and did a really bad job. I think the approach for the cabinet is to have it sand blasted first.

    Edit: Saddle pics here
    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f189/h...sembly-126296/


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    Default Logo painting question

    What's the best way of painting the Hercus logo cast into the bed.

    BT tells me the recessed background is white and the raised lettering is red.

    Do you think it best to fill in the background first then paint the lettering, or visa versa.

    If someone could photograph their logo, I would appreciate it. I'm wondering whether the sides of the lettering are painted, or just the tops.

    Here's another crook pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    One of the oldest paint brands in the market, Taubmans has been painting Australian homes for over 110 years. In 2007 PPG Industries acquired the Taubmans brand. Back in the early 1900s, George Taubman built the company on a foundation of technical superiority. Taubmans' new owners, PPG, also have a long history of applying global technologies to gain a competitive edge.

    Dulux will match other brand colours.

    Red lettering yellow background.

    BT
    Not white Ken.

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    Thanks guys. Carbon fibre sounds good but I cant find any cheap. You'd want Non prepreg if you find some.

    I think I would paint the "non white" area first and then try using a short haired roller on the letters. But thats only coz I'm not up to much with a brush lol

    Stuart

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