Thread: Well, that went well, not!

If no one else gets around to it before hand, I'll photograph mine tomorrow Ken.

BT

After extensive masking, I finally managed to spray paint the inside of the bed, in red.

The next task will be to paint the logo, this will be a tricky job to get it right. Following GQ's advice, I purchased a small hard rubber roller. Not sure if the roller is the best way vs a fine paint brush and a steady hand.

Another crook pic.

Ken

Originally Posted by neksmerj

After extensive masking, I finally managed to spray paint the inside of the bed, in red.

The next task will be to paint the logo, this will be a tricky job to get it right. Following GQ's advice, I purchased a small hard rubber roller. Not sure if the roller is the best way vs a fine paint brush and a steady hand.

Another crook pic.

Ken

Ken
The red looks good & will follow the tradition of Hercus, well done.
Bruce

I searched for Hercus paint hoping to find an image of the cast in letters. Found this - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/he...88/#post644081

Anyone know of a release agent for blue masking tape, or a secret way of removing it?

I'm finding that pulling the masking tape off my lathe bed, it's taking some green
paint with it.

Ken

Originally Posted by neksmerj

Anyone know of a release agent for blue masking tape, or a secret way of removing it?

I'm finding that pulling the masking tape off my lathe bed, it's taking some green
paint with it.

Ken

KJ,

I was looking at the tape and thinking "Ken must have found some wonder masking tape that doesn't remove fresh enamel". I was obviously mistaken!

I have taken a couple of photos of the cast in name and other than noticing how much of the caked on oil and sawdust salve is still there, I was surprised somewhat to see how insipid the yellow was. It looks to be about as pale as the paint they used in the interior of the little No. O mill.

Below is a photo of a nice Craftsman and a 260 for comparison of the background colour.

BT

Thanks BT. From your snaps the raised Hercus lettering is definitely only painted on the top. That means the hard rubber roller I bought will be pressed into service, thanks GQ for the tip. With respect to the recessed pale yellow background, how much of the yellow paint comes up the side walls, or was it only in the bottom flat surface?

I know, I'm being pedantic, just want everything honky dory.

Ken

Originally Posted by neksmerj

Thanks BT. From your snaps the raised Hercus lettering is definitely only painted on the top. That means the hard rubber roller I bought will be pressed into service, thanks GQ for the tip. With respect to the recessed pale yellow background, how much of the yellow paint comes up the side walls, or was it only in the bottom flat surface?

I know, I'm being pedantic, just want everything honky dory.

Ken

Ah. The good old days when they took that little bit of extra care!

I'd say you have a fair amount of latitude with this Ken. They did a better job on the '58 model.

BT

Your snaps did not give me a conclusive opinion of where the background paint is to go, so I'll fill the recessed cream colour up to the top, ie, up the side walls.

For those just tuning in, I'm referring to the cast logo in the side of the Hercus lathe bed.

I'll mask off the area with blue masking tape, and fill in with Humbrol Ivory. Humbrol make tiny tins of modelling paint in gloss enamel. $3.50 a tin.

No luck getting paint yet, looks like I will have to go to Hearn's Hobbies, in Melbourne. None locally.

Ken

So Ken,

Have you come up with a technique that prevents the removal of the green paint when you use masking tape?

As for the inconclusiveness of my photos, I will admit the paint job on the green lathe logo is poor but the blue backgound border is pretty well defined. Not perfect but not too bad.

Maybe you should have photographed yours before you stripped the paint off.

BT

Hi BT,

Of course you are right, let this be a lesson to all restorers, take lots of snaps. I just wanted to rip into the resto trusting my memory for the details. BT, do you agree that the background colour on the 9" is cream or ivory as opposed to bright yellow. It seems that the 260 was yellow. I propose to use 3mm wide strips of blue masking tape around the the logo, laying strip beside strip, I figure removing narrower strips will do less damage.

I also thought of making a dam around the recess with Plasticine, but figure that any plasticine in the wrong place, will inhibit the paint.

Please stop yawning, this is serious stuff, "yawn".

Ken

I would have thought any damage was too much damage to your pristine green paint Ken ( wait till you see what swarf does to it! ).

Ivory or a slighty yellow cream would be close. The dam idea sounds a touch excessive. What? Paint by flooding.

BT

Not being into this type of thing cant give any advice except to say,look into the background colour a little more as your machine may not of had an Ivory or Yellow type of background for the letters,only saying this as the Craftsman and 260 are much latter models than your machine,mine is 67 and has never had any work done to its paint and it has a Blue type of background with the Red lettering.

BT, You have me concerned re pulling paint off with masking tape. Can anyone suggest a safe method of masking?

Pipeclay, that's interesting that the lathe bed logo came in various colours. I presume red was the colour for the raised lettering, in all cases.

The background colour on my bed was definately a creamy colour. Thanks for your comment.

Whilst waiting for the wind to drop, I began stripping one of the fibre glass guards. The paint just about falls off. I'm using a chisel to scrape it off followed with some steel wool.

Under both layers of paint I discovered that someone had engraved some information on the face of the guard. It's quite deep and will have to be filled before paint.

Could I use Plaster of Paris as a filler?

Because it was below all the paint layers, suggests it was put there at the Hercus factory, but why?

A few pics of progress.

Pic1. shows the engraved spindle speed info.
Pic2. shows some of the paint removed.
Pic3. shows the original green paint inside the guard.

Ken